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Wonktonodi said:
Wildvine53 said:
Wonktonodi said:
Wildvine53 said:
Wonktonodi said:
Wildvine53 said:


If he did get a second pm that had all of his info, why would he need to read the first?


You are voting him yet quasi defending him not reading his role PM


I'm not defending him. I'm asking if he is telling the truth about his second pm, then does he really need to read the first one?

Do you think he's telling the truth? Do you think he got all the info in the second post? How will he know if he has all the info if he doesn't read the first post?

And you are quasi defending. You are asking if him reading the fist post still matters. Not a full out defence just asking the wrong questions.

No, there is no way for me to know if he is telling the truth. I asked "if he got a second pm" because I'm not sure if he actually did. What would be the right question then?

I didn't ask what you know. I asked what you think. The if statment was a qualifyier for your question not a question itself.

Some good questions are: are people voting him because they think he's scum or because they don't like how he's playing the game day one?

If people think he scum, what are their thoughts on what would motivate him to do this? Do those ideas make sence?

If people are voting based on how he's playing day one will him admitting reading his first post satisfy them or is it too late and they are out for blood?

Sorry, I misread you post.I think linkz is lying.  first he comes out and says that he won't read his role pm until night. then he says that he gets a second pm with some info about his role, and he still says he is going  waiting for night to read his original role pm. If he really didn't read the pm, why did he want everyone to know he didn't read it? The whole scenario just comes off as odd to me.

I think it's a little of both. His posting about not reading the pm made him seem suspicious. I was suspicious of him, then TruckOSaurus made the point that his actions would most likely benifit scum, which is why I voted for Linkz. If Linkz hadn't mentioned not reading his pm, then I think we wouldn't be suspicious of him to begin with. Basically it is the way he is playing day one that makes him looks like scum.

He could potentially trying to divert attention from other Mafia members. The idea doesn't really make sense though, it would make more sense for the mafia to try and divert attention to other players, not one of there own.

I don't think saying he read the pm would help Linkz. I he suddenly said that he read his first pm, I wouldn't belive him. That would mean he lied about reading it in the first place, giving me no reason to believe anything else he says.



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Silver-Tiger said:

 

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In the meantime I analyzed Zarx. well, he seems legit. he doesn't post often, but when he comments, it's reasonable and make sense. Additionally, he didn't jump on the bandwagon when he had all chance to do it.

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Is it only me or does the analysation of zarx read quite different from the ones he made earlier, also I find it funny how he can use "he did not jump on the bandwagon when he had the chance to do it" as a pro-town-zarx point, when I did not jump on it either, and when he wrote about me, he did not even mention that fact... so if zarx does not jump on a bandwagon it is a positive aspect? so... - ST - please explain in detail why you are suspicious of me...



Stefl1504 said:

Silver-Tiger said:

 

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In the meantime I analyzed Zarx. well, he seems legit. he doesn't post often, but when he comments, it's reasonable and make sense. Additionally, he didn't jump on the bandwagon when he had all chance to do it.

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Is it only me or does the analysation of zarx read quite different from the ones he made earlier, also I find it funny how he can use "he did not jump on the bandwagon when he had the chance to do it" as a pro-town-zarx point, when I did not jump on it either, and when he wrote about me, he did not even mention that fact... so if zarx does not jump on a bandwagon it is a positive aspect? so... - ST - please explain in detail why you are suspicious of me...

You are right, I analyzed Zarx really fast. And I also take it positive that you didn't vote for Linkz.

However, you're being strangely defensive, especially for a comment that wasn't directed at you. I see my vote really bothers you...

Let me make you an offer you can't refuse:

I remove my vote on you (though I can't promise I won't vote for you the next days), and you promise not to kill me night 1 if you're scum. What do you think?

Unvote

Vote: No lynch

I don't think we get much more information today, anyway.



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Silver-Tiger said:
Wonktonodi said:
 

If people are voting based on how he's playing day one will him admitting reading his first post satisfy them or is it too late and they are out for blood?

That's what I have been fearing. People aren't voting for linkz because they think he's scum, but because they don't like his playstyle.

Again, I asking everyone to refrain from voting Linkz because of the whole Pm fiasco. I do not suspect him at all.

In the meantime I analyzed Zarx. well, he seems legit. he doesn't post often, but when he comments, it's reasonable and make sense. Additionally, he didn't jump on the bandwagon when he had all chance to do it.

theprof00 said:

lol, early paranoia

I guess you're town.

My point is...what kind of question is "are you townie". Like, What? Shouldn't you be asking "are you scum". And even so, what's with the directness? You think I'd just crumble? Or, if I lied, what then?

Your post comes off as extremely lazy, and more realistically, more aloof. It is for that reason alone that I've decided that you're town..well, at least for now.

But yes, I do win if town wins. If that means I am town, then yes, I am town.

I was surprised nobody questioned this. This implies that he isn't actually townie, but has something liek a third-party role which wins if town wins. I would love to get some information on that.

I think that just theprof being vague,  all my PMs when I have pro-town roles says that I win when the town wins, its probably him reciting his PM and adding a little extra too it to cause a stir. I cant think of a third party that would fall into that situation, third party kinda implies that he has his own win scenario like a cult or a SK.



Wonktonodi said:
Vetteman94 said:
Wonktonodi said:

I didn't ask what you know. I asked what you think. The if statment was a qualifyier for your question not a question itself.

1. Some good questions are: are people voting him because they think he's scum or because they don't like how he's playing the game day one?

2. If people think he scum, what are their thoughts on what would motivate him to do this? Do those ideas make sence?

3. If people are voting based on how he's playing day one will him admitting reading his first post satisfy them or is it too late and they are out for blood?

1. Both
2. To try and throw people off with any connections he happens to make during the first day.  To try and hide his possible helping of fellow scum and trying to falsely look innocent.
3. I think the only way I would unvote him is a full nameclaim and roleclaim.  With exact details of the roles abilities unless its common like a cop or doctor. 

 

1. What makes you think he scum

2. I'm sorry I should have said what "do this" means since there is now a bit.

 A. He says he didn't read his role PM.  I could see him doing it for kicks but why tell everyone he didn't?

B. Some think he read it and just said he didn't, why would he do that?

C. Why would he make up the second pm instead of just saying he read the first?

D. FF had some interesting thoughts on this.

3. we'll now see what he does

 

1. This is why

2A. Well he did it last round and never announced that he didnt so why do it this round, He announced it to make it clear to everyone that there shouldnt be ties to scum if he helps people or accuses people.

2B. He saw that he was scum, so to hide any ties he makes this claim.

2C. He makes up the second one to try and look like he is town, by saying that he got a message from ABC about roleclaiming rules.  But they have already been explained in this game,  so why would he get a specialized PM that even includes specifics about his role and thats its pro-town.  And since he knows that already why not just read the Role PM.  

2D. Not really

3.  His answers will be interesting



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Vetteman94 said:

*quote*

I think that just theprof being vague,  all my PMs when I have pro-town roles says that I win when the town wins, its probably him reciting his PM and adding a little extra too it to cause a stir. I cant think of a third party that would fall into that situation, third party kinda implies that he has his own win scenario like a cult or a SK.

i can remember when I was Captain Falcon in the Smash Bros. themed game by j0, I would either win with town or if I am able to escape Brawl town - you could call that a third party...



Vetteman94 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Wonktonodi said:
 

If people are voting based on how he's playing day one will him admitting reading his first post satisfy them or is it too late and they are out for blood?

That's what I have been fearing. People aren't voting for linkz because they think he's scum, but because they don't like his playstyle.

Again, I asking everyone to refrain from voting Linkz because of the whole Pm fiasco. I do not suspect him at all.

In the meantime I analyzed Zarx. well, he seems legit. he doesn't post often, but when he comments, it's reasonable and make sense. Additionally, he didn't jump on the bandwagon when he had all chance to do it.

theprof00 said:

lol, early paranoia

I guess you're town.

My point is...what kind of question is "are you townie". Like, What? Shouldn't you be asking "are you scum". And even so, what's with the directness? You think I'd just crumble? Or, if I lied, what then?

Your post comes off as extremely lazy, and more realistically, more aloof. It is for that reason alone that I've decided that you're town..well, at least for now.

But yes, I do win if town wins. If that means I am town, then yes, I am town.

I was surprised nobody questioned this. This implies that he isn't actually townie, but has something liek a third-party role which wins if town wins. I would love to get some information on that.

I think that just theprof being vague,  all my PMs when I have pro-town roles says that I win when the town wins, its probably him reciting his PM and adding a little extra too it to cause a stir. I cant think of a third party that would fall into that situation, third party kinda implies that he has his own win scenario like a cult or a SK.


And why should that be so unlikely?



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playing right now: Xenoblade Chronicles

Hype-o-meter, from least to most hyped:  the Last Story, Twisted Metal, Mass Effect 3, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Playstation ViTA

bet with Mordred11 that Rage will look better on Xbox 360.

Silver-Tiger said:

*quote*

You are right, I analyzed Zarx really fast. And I also take it positive that you didn't vote for Linkz.

However, you're being strangely defensive, especially for a comment that wasn't directed at you. I see my vote really bothers you...

Let me make you an offer you can't refuse:

I remove my vote on you (though I can't promise I won't vote for you the next days), and you promise not to kill me night 1 if you're scum. What do you think?

Unvote

Vote: No lynch

I don't think we get much more information today, anyway.

Actually I don't think that I was defensiv there, I just pointed out how with one player you mentioned something as positiv that was ignored when talking about me.

Further I am curious if you are unvoting me, so you don't have to search now for something that would make me appear in a bad light... I am just having the feeling like you did not really had a specific reason to vote for me, you just did it without any backup - other than that feeling you are having.

I know that it often comes down to feeling when you are getting suspicious of someone, but I would appriciate if you could pinpoint the things that made you suspicious of me.

Further I would like you to analyze zarx again - not fast, but in the same maner you did analyze all the others.



Silver-Tiger said:
Vetteman94 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Wonktonodi said:
 

If people are voting based on how he's playing day one will him admitting reading his first post satisfy them or is it too late and they are out for blood?

That's what I have been fearing. People aren't voting for linkz because they think he's scum, but because they don't like his playstyle.

Again, I asking everyone to refrain from voting Linkz because of the whole Pm fiasco. I do not suspect him at all.

In the meantime I analyzed Zarx. well, he seems legit. he doesn't post often, but when he comments, it's reasonable and make sense. Additionally, he didn't jump on the bandwagon when he had all chance to do it.

theprof00 said:

lol, early paranoia

I guess you're town.

My point is...what kind of question is "are you townie". Like, What? Shouldn't you be asking "are you scum". And even so, what's with the directness? You think I'd just crumble? Or, if I lied, what then?

Your post comes off as extremely lazy, and more realistically, more aloof. It is for that reason alone that I've decided that you're town..well, at least for now.

But yes, I do win if town wins. If that means I am town, then yes, I am town.

I was surprised nobody questioned this. This implies that he isn't actually townie, but has something liek a third-party role which wins if town wins. I would love to get some information on that.

I think that just theprof being vague,  all my PMs when I have pro-town roles says that I win when the town wins, its probably him reciting his PM and adding a little extra too it to cause a stir. I cant think of a third party that would fall into that situation, third party kinda implies that he has his own win scenario like a cult or a SK.


And why should that be so unlikely?

Because he says that he wins when the town wins,  that kinda rules out third party as those have their own win condition.  Unless you are trying to get me to say I dont think there is a SK or a Cult in this game,  which is far from what I am saying.  Im only saying that given the information that theprof has given us I believe its safe to assume that he is not a third party role like the ones I listed.



Vetteman94 said:

Vote Linkzmax

I believe you are lying about not reading your role PM,  I believe you did read it, saw that you were scum and said that you didnt read it so there couldnt be possible links to your scum buddies through the firrst day posts.  I believe you fabricated the second PM as well, since there was no reason for you to get a second PM, as you hadnt made any roleclaims of any sort.


How does him saying he didn't read it remove any possible links with scum if he did read it?

Do we think he's trying to act in a way that if he were just a plain town and looks at everyone who is suspicious as supsicious and take his word? Or do we assume he looked at it and is just trying to act in that way while he is more likely to point out suspicions of town?

I don't see why he would say he didn't read it if he did when that drew a lot of attention to him and made everyone suspicious of everything he does.

Personally I don't like the attitude of not reading the PM and I also didn't like him flat out saying he thought I had a vote related role. Although I don't think of either as overly scumy. However I have no objection to him being lynched day one since there will be quite a bit of info to go off of and a bid distraction will be gone.

However if the town doesn't lynch him today he really does need to go if the town every gets to a lylo.