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Anyone else notice that hephaestos voted for linkz again after  theprof mentioned that scum are overly cautious about mislynches ? :/

Stefl1504 said:

As for GoWs question:

I do try always to change playstyle, so that my read isn't that easy - sometimes it succeeds sometimes not - that how things go, also this game got me really enthusiastic, so there is another reason for me to be so happy go lucky.

Wait...so you change your playstyle to be harder to read ? Isn't that something scum should worry about ? :/

Linkzmax said:

GodOfWar_3ever said: With quote bubbles

How you guys backed out of lynching this clown is beyond me. What kind of blasphemy is this ??? He's admitted that IF he's scum, he'd be in a great position for the rest of the game if he makes it through day 1. Ugh...

I 100% agree with this... especially the 2nd paragraph.

Well obviously he can't read like scum if he doesn't know who the hell he is ? if badgenome started posting here, actively joining the game he is not a part of, we'd probably think he's not scum too.

Right now, I really feel we should lynch linkzmax. The only thing thats holding me back is the fact that if town, he'd be a great asset to us. But his attitude in this game (and his absence of an avatar :P) is pissing me off. -_-

Notstan on the other hand, is also acting suspicious imo. I've never seen him play before though.. I'd like to know the reasoning behind stefl's sudden change of playstyle too. Could you mention why you changed how you usually play, stefl ? 

oh btw, Unvote

How you can call anyone a clown after your last game is beyond me.

I'm not one to leave out facts just because it may make me look better. It's obviously a risk for town IF I was scum. Turns out that isn't the case, so there's no worry about missing any connections.

Wonk's right. For all of your tough talk, you not voting for me is very suspect. Have you been following the rounds you weren't in, because I find it odd that you say I'd be a great asset if I'm town.

Yeah...my insanity/impatience no longer exists. You don't have to worry about absolute horse shit. I played in the first game you played here, and I remember how everyone was excited about how awesome you were. You were a natural, they said.

I didn't vote for you because we all know most people here are too puss to go for a day one lynch... Also I was on the fence whether to vote for you or notstan, and i decided to wait a little longer and see how things unfold.

Right now, I'm leaning more towards you...and hephaestos and stefl are other possible candidates for me.



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Well hello everyone,  sorry about not being here on time,  had some serious issues to take care of but I dont think they will be a problem going forward.   On a side note I dont think games should start on a Friday anymore, they should all start after the weekend. 

I have read the thread, and to be honest I dont have many opinions about what is going on.  I know that looks terrible but I cant help it.

I think Linkz not reading his PM, telling us he didnt, isnt very helpful to the town.   And I believe his second PM was a fabrication.

Thats really all I can think to share.  I will be going back to see if there is anything I missed that may be useful.



GodOfWar_3ever said:

Anyone else notice that hephaestos voted for linkz again after  theprof mentioned that scum are overly cautious about mislynches ? :/

Stefl1504 said:

As for GoWs question:

I do try always to change playstyle, so that my read isn't that easy - sometimes it succeeds sometimes not - that how things go, also this game got me really enthusiastic, so there is another reason for me to be so happy go lucky.

Wait...so you change your playstyle to be harder to read ? Isn't that something scum should worry about ? :/

Linkzmax said:

GodOfWar_3ever said: With quote bubbles

How you guys backed out of lynching this clown is beyond me. What kind of blasphemy is this ??? He's admitted that IF he's scum, he'd be in a great position for the rest of the game if he makes it through day 1. Ugh...

I 100% agree with this... especially the 2nd paragraph.

Well obviously he can't read like scum if he doesn't know who the hell he is ? if badgenome started posting here, actively joining the game he is not a part of, we'd probably think he's not scum too.

Right now, I really feel we should lynch linkzmax. The only thing thats holding me back is the fact that if town, he'd be a great asset to us. But his attitude in this game (and his absence of an avatar :P) is pissing me off. -_-

Notstan on the other hand, is also acting suspicious imo. I've never seen him play before though.. I'd like to know the reasoning behind stefl's sudden change of playstyle too. Could you mention why you changed how you usually play, stefl ? 

oh btw, Unvote

How you can call anyone a clown after your last game is beyond me.

I'm not one to leave out facts just because it may make me look better. It's obviously a risk for town IF I was scum. Turns out that isn't the case, so there's no worry about missing any connections.

Wonk's right. For all of your tough talk, you not voting for me is very suspect. Have you been following the rounds you weren't in, because I find it odd that you say I'd be a great asset if I'm town.

Yeah...my insanity/impatience no longer exists. You don't have to worry about absolute horse shit. I played in the first game you played here, and I remember how everyone was excited about how awesome you were. You were a natural, they said.

I didn't vote for you because we all know most people here are too puss to go for a day one lynch... Also I was on the fence whether to vote for you or notstan, and i decided to wait a little longer and see how things unfold.

Right now, I'm leaning more towards you...and hephaestos and stefl are other possible candidates for me.

Why would you let others typical behaviors influence what you would do on the first day,  if you feel a first day lynch is what you should happen then you should push for it.



Of course I want to be hard to read, when scum easily knows my role I would be prime-target if its a great asset to town - if they can't I am going into the can't be read section - and when I am town my priority on the first day lies with surviving - when I get scum on the way, good for town, but I cannot be of use if I am dead (well, unless it uncovers scum), so there are three things I want to achieve before going into night one:

Trust from some players

Distrust from some players

Not giving away my role

If I have people that distrust me, scum is less likely to kill me at night - because there is the probability of geting lynched

If people trust me, it is less likely that people lynch me

If scum doesn't know my role I can protect Powerroles or use my Powerrole much more freely

So actually when you are town it's a lot easier to play the game. Of course if you enter day two and you have gathered too much distrust its likely to be your end, so its all about a healthy balance!

 

So now to you GoW, to me it seems like you are suspicious of all the easy-to-get-lynched targets, Heph, Linkz and me (just wondering why you are missing prof)... so why have you dropped the idea that notstan is possible scum? All three of your current targets have gathered some suspicion on them by other players, what do you think of the players?

As for Vette - could you give us a small overview of what you are thinking about all the players, like for example who is an active lurker, who could be town, who scum, and so on.



TruckOSaurus said:
Stefl1504 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

Yeah double checked my post. I'm only became unkillable after I mentioned stump. So I could have tried to get the scum to kill me before claiming but then I'd be dead. I think my voice is more usefull to the town and now no protown powerroles will waste a night action on me.


Then I hope Scum targets you anyway^^


Wait... I don't believe your claim one bit... it is clearly mentioned in one of ABC posts that if we claim our actions go random.org, so why should he implement a role that has to claim to get somewhat usefull

HoS Wonk

Wonk's claim is verifiable through votals... if his vote starts to show up on board then I'll be worried about it.

They already have messed up enough in the votals that this is no evidence to me, also he could make a name claim since he already claimed his role.



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Stefl1504 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

Yeah double checked my post. I'm only became unkillable after I mentioned stump. So I could have tried to get the scum to kill me before claiming but then I'd be dead. I think my voice is more usefull to the town and now no protown powerroles will waste a night action on me.


Then I hope Scum targets you anyway^^


Wait... I don't believe your claim one bit... it is clearly mentioned in one of ABC posts that if we claim our actions go random.org, so why should he implement a role that has to claim to get somewhat usefull

HoS Wonk

Some would argue once I claim my role is uesless. I however do like the idea of not being killed this game. Regardles my role has no actions to radnomize. I have no actions. I have no vote. You also know what is great I don't need you to believe it. You Can't do anything about it! I can't die. It's that simple.

Look at the votals. When they messed up yours they changed them. There have been at least 2 since I voted and unvoted. My vote was never there.

And since you asked so nicely I'm Dwyane Forge how ABC turned him into a treestump is beyond me.



Stefl1504 said:

They already have messed up enough in the votals that this is no evidence to me, also he could make a name claim since he already claimed his role.

Umm, excuse me?  Not to interrupt, but there have been no flaws in my votals, so thanks for appreciating my work...



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

theprof00 said:

I think Heph was in what could potentially be a mislynch and then he dropped out before anything could happen. Caution usually points toward scum for me.

I don't agree with this reasoning.  If Heph voted early, it's expected that people throw their vote around on Day 1 and people voting later would take the blame.  If Heph voted later, and he's being cautious, he wouldn't have voted in the first place, right?  

(Based on later posts, apparently he voted 4th?  So I would think that the second option would apply.  And the same post I got that from said he was 4th to unvote as well so it's not like he got nervous and bailed at a critical moment.  If anything I'd think his unvote was almost unnecessary.) 



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Baalzamon said:
Votes to Lynch: Player Name: L-6 L-5 L-4
L-5 Linkz Truck Wildvine Heph
L-6 Zarx Stefl - -
L-6 Wildvine Final-Fan - -
L-6 Wonk Linkz - -
L-6
NotStan
Prof
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Unvotes:

Truck: Prof

NotStan: Prof

GodofWar: Stefl

SilverTiger: GodofWar

Linkz: Heph, SilverTiger, Prof

With 13 players, 7 votes will result in a lynch.





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Stefl1504 said:

As for Vette - could you give us a small overview of what you are thinking about all the players, like for example who is an active lurker, who could be town, who scum, and so on.

Vette sees nothing; he suspects nothing; he knows nothing. 



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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

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