By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General Discussion - VGC Mafia Round 29 -Grand Theft Auto 4 edition!

Hephaestos on 16 May 2011
Wonktonodi said:
Linkzmax said:
 

.

Wonk's HOS to a vote adds up to me, but I'm going to flat out say that the last votals point to Wonk being an Actor as Heph was last round. I have no qualms about possibly outing such a role as that type along with voteless or hated townie will almost always only be a detriment to the town. If that's the case, I completely understand his plan now. Obviously there could be an error in the votals, and so Wonk shouldn't say anything on the matter unless he's actually an Actor or voteless.

I'm a stump who never had a vote :( most stumps at least get to vote until they claim.

I wasn't sure if it would be better for me to let scum try and kill me and take out a townie who can't vote them. Or to stick around till the end as a proven townie.

I'm going with the sticking around option since you pointed out the votals and I doubt anyone else will get as many votes today.


I now had time to go back and check the votals.... so i'll say this.

How does outing wonk help the town? it doesn't.

How does it help the scum? they won't have to loose a kill at trying to get to him.

Now linkz i'm voting back on you for this first blow you gave the town... you basically killed a townie by depriving wonk of the ability to make himself a marthyr. Oh sure you'll say that as scum you could have waited the night to tell your mates, but no, you needed the confirmation on his role and not just give him a free pass.

Moreover, it's nice and all that people complain you didn't check your PM at L-1... whatever. What buggs me is your "warning message" cause apparently now you know that you're town... oh yeah so what is your reason now for not reading your PM? the only reason left that makes sense is to not see the names of your scumbuddies.

 

Vote: Linkz



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

Around the Network
Hephaestos on 16 May 2011
Stefl1504 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

Yeah double checked my post. I'm only became unkillable after I mentioned stump. So I could have tried to get the scum to kill me before claiming but then I'd be dead. I think my voice is more usefull to the town and now no protown powerroles will waste a night action on me.


Then I hope Scum targets you anyway^^


Wait... I don't believe your claim one bit... it is clearly mentioned in one of ABC posts that if we claim our actions go random.org, so why should he implement a role that has to claim to get somewhat usefull

HoS Wonk

Ok i'm enoyed that Linkz and Proff keep on saying you look town. You don't look town one bit to me. Sure your usual scum tell is lurking... but to me it seems more that you're on a roll from last game where you had a surge of activity while pretending to be Maes.

That said, you didn't slip yet but I wanted it voiced (since i'm attacking 2 people I have a strong sense of scum on.... ah! crazy first day making us focus on active people rather than inactive ones), so only a FoS



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

Hephaestos on 16 May 2011
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

And yes, I did not mean to imply that I'm third party. I said that I was town, well, I said I win with the town. Unfortunately, for me, that's what my pm says. It's not a direct quote, but it was fresh on my mind.


Anyone else find this hilarious? no?

i'm not voting as it goes against the vibe I had so far... still FoS.

maybe i'm not letting it enough time to settle....

so i'll use Proff's own standards.

for a 7 lynch vote, 4th voter is tipping point voter... that was... Proff.... who "surprise" "surprise" was also the 4th to unvote.... Damn that's some strong momentum following there...

HOS Proff

i'd vote you but really I think Linkz is more appropriate for day one here.



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

Hephaestos on 16 May 2011

I currently believe the scum team is Linkz, Proff, Stefl, Trucks.... Oh yeah i'm likely wrong, this is day one... but that's my feeling so far.



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

theprof00 on 16 May 2011
Hephaestos said:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

And yes, I did not mean to imply that I'm third party. I said that I was town, well, I said I win with the town. Unfortunately, for me, that's what my pm says. It's not a direct quote, but it was fresh on my mind.


Anyone else find this hilarious? no?

i'm not voting as it goes against the vibe I had so far... still FoS.

maybe i'm not letting it enough time to settle....

so i'll use Proff's own standards.

for a 7 lynch vote, 4th voter is tipping point voter... that was... Proff.... who "surprise" "surprise" was also the 4th to unvote.... Damn that's some strong momentum following there...

HOS Proff

i'd vote you but really I think Linkz is more appropriate for day one here.

I want to lynch linkz. I REALLY want to lynch linkz. But, you're not helping your case when you say things that make me question your sanity.   (although I do agree with the "names of the scumbuddies" thing.)



Around the Network
TruckOSaurus on 16 May 2011
Linkzmax said:
zarx said:
Linkzmax said:

Oh lookie! ABC sent me a second PM, which I did read as it looked like a warning. I know I'm town now, so if Wonk's plan was to actually catch scum for hammering that may have worked unless a townie hammered.


So are you going to read your role PM now then? Because it would seem that there is no benifit to not reading it now unless you are scum...

How did the worning confirm you were town anyway? Seems pretty dodgy to me.

No, I'm not going to read it yet. I know whether or not I have an active ability, and thus if I can disguise that fact or lacktherof until at least tonight it should help town.

I'm not stupid and won't be quoting a PM. It said I was town. You seem extremely dodgy to me after your question to Heph.

I'll reiterate what I said earlier, most active role don't give off tells on Day One because they don't know anything more than vanilla townies. I still believe your exercice is pointless (unless you're scum).



Signature goes here!

Hephaestos on 16 May 2011
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

And yes, I did not mean to imply that I'm third party. I said that I was town, well, I said I win with the town. Unfortunately, for me, that's what my pm says. It's not a direct quote, but it was fresh on my mind.


Anyone else find this hilarious? no?

i'm not voting as it goes against the vibe I had so far... still FoS.

maybe i'm not letting it enough time to settle....

so i'll use Proff's own standards.

for a 7 lynch vote, 4th voter is tipping point voter... that was... Proff.... who "surprise" "surprise" was also the 4th to unvote.... Damn that's some strong momentum following there...

HOS Proff

i'd vote you but really I think Linkz is more appropriate for day one here.

I want to lynch linkz. I REALLY want to lynch linkz. But, you're not helping your case when you say things that make me question your sanity.   (although I do agree with the "names of the scumbuddies" thing.)

We I was sufficiently unsatisfied by the last 12 hours of discution to not oppose it to go further.



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

TruckOSaurus on 16 May 2011
Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:

At first I thought Linkzmax's tactic was interesting and maybe worth doing.  But then I thought about it and realized that if it spread, and everyone did that, it would just end up with Day 1 being a complete fucking waste of time with everyone chasing after shadows at best.  So I'm against it, and I wouldn't have been sad if Linkz went unrepentant to the gallows.

I would say that day one's usually are a waste of time here, but this is something I had never thought of before and that isn't something I would want.

Day One seems like a waste on Day One but in the following days it can prove very helpful when going back on a player's activity.



Signature goes here!

TruckOSaurus on 16 May 2011
NotStan said:
Wonktonodi said:
NotStan said:

It was at L-1 at one point I think, because it was L-2 before and someone else threw in a vote and I was online at the time.

I didn't decide to vote because there is an off chance that he is pro town, after all we didn't even have one night and people are already starting a witch hunt.


Read more posts than just the one in which you are quoted. I have no vote. So although I voted and make people think he was at L1 he remained at L2. Why do we need to wait for night to lynch someone? We know the scum are there. Day one they haven't talked with one another yet and might do something stupid.

I did, I believe it was linkz who proposed idea of you being actor? I just dismissed it as a theory at the time - and it was proposed after the close encounter anyway.

The scum are there, but with 3/4 maybe 5/6 at most(including possible 3rd parties) it's still almost 1/2 chance of hitting a pro town.

He's not talking about Linkz's proposition, he's talking about when he roleclaimed and explicitly said he had no vote. Do you really all the posts?



Signature goes here!

TruckOSaurus on 16 May 2011
Stefl1504 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Wonktonodi said:

Yeah double checked my post. I'm only became unkillable after I mentioned stump. So I could have tried to get the scum to kill me before claiming but then I'd be dead. I think my voice is more usefull to the town and now no protown powerroles will waste a night action on me.


Then I hope Scum targets you anyway^^


Wait... I don't believe your claim one bit... it is clearly mentioned in one of ABC posts that if we claim our actions go random.org, so why should he implement a role that has to claim to get somewhat usefull

HoS Wonk

Wonk's claim is verifiable through votals... if his vote starts to show up on board then I'll be worried about it.



Signature goes here!