By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General Discussion - VGC Mafia Round 29 -Grand Theft Auto 4 edition!

Wonktonodi said:
NotStan said:

Asking a question in regards to whether a no lynch would be beneficial for town is now considered scummy? Whatever warrants your reason to divert attention to me I suppose.

I always vote no lynch on day one, and will continue to do so in the forseeable future unless something spectacular happens.

Vote No Lynch

Whether you like it or not, most of the time this results in a no lynch or mislynch, in rare intances does it get the correct lynch, I could have hammered Linkz, but decided against it.

Why did you decide agaist voting for linkz?

Also it wouldn't have hammered unless you or someone else is a double voter.

It was at L-1 at one point I think, because it was L-2 before and someone else threw in a vote and I was online at the time.

I didn't decide to vote because there is an off chance that he is pro town, after all we didn't even have one night and people are already starting a witch hunt.



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.

Around the Network
theprof00 said:

it's so hard to read a reply like this and know how to break it down for a proper response. Since it's late, since it's day 1, since I don't feel necessary, I'll be brief.

A) I think Heph was in what could potentially be a mislynch and then he dropped out before anything could happen. Caution usually points toward scum for me.

B) I see that whole thing with Wonk now. Hopefully, it's not part of a bigger master scum plan.

C) about zarx, I can see how that looks scummy, but I didn't in any way mean that HE was town. I don't know why I wrote it like that, though. Perhaps I confused hi with stefl, who was giving me a town vibe, or perhaps I meant it in a subjective way. At this point in time I don't remember, although in the moment I'm sure there was some reason (or at least, some discernable thought process). I don't know zarx' alignment. I don't know why, but I just assumed he was town for some reason.


Well ether you have a good gut or you are scum...

Also when does the inactivity rule come into effect? Did it start when the thread was posted or after everyone has checked in?



@TheVoxelman on twitter

Check out my hype threads: Cyberpunk, and The Witcher 3!

theprof00 said:

First off, I want to know what this warning was.

Second, do not attribute seriousness to something casual. (regarding my response to stefl)

Third, last game you didn't announce it, so, NO, you didn't do "THIS" last game. Everytime I've seen someone announce that they've turned mafia.

I want to know what your warning was, or else everyone that unvoted is going in my book. At L-1, you still didn't check your pm? ABC sent you a warning? You have nothing else to add?

I find this all highly suspicious.

Additionally, if you don't read your message, the icon always shows as a message waiting. There wouldn't be a surprise unless you always have one of your tabs set to your mailbox.


There you are correct. It is subtely different from last game.

just a note on the messages... for me the icon on the side menu indicates the number of messages.... (but I have a ghost message so it always stays at 1, the top menu warning is therefore useless to me ^^)



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

NotStan said:

Heph, what are the odds of us winning if we vote for no lynch today?


same as if we lynch.... I won't comment on this game's setup till tomorow, and any comment would be highly hypothetical anyways.

last game we could not have foreseen there was siblings, a survivor, a mafia backup, a delayed kill... all these are factors that make calculations wrong. The only thing i'm sure is that no lynch = 1/2 dead townie... provided there is only one mafia kill (other kills can hit mafia too).



OoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoO

NotStan said:
Wonktonodi said:
NotStan said:

Asking a question in regards to whether a no lynch would be beneficial for town is now considered scummy? Whatever warrants your reason to divert attention to me I suppose.

I always vote no lynch on day one, and will continue to do so in the forseeable future unless something spectacular happens.

Vote No Lynch

Whether you like it or not, most of the time this results in a no lynch or mislynch, in rare intances does it get the correct lynch, I could have hammered Linkz, but decided against it.

Why did you decide agaist voting for linkz?

Also it wouldn't have hammered unless you or someone else is a double voter.

It was at L-1 at one point I think, because it was L-2 before and someone else threw in a vote and I was online at the time.

I didn't decide to vote because there is an off chance that he is pro town, after all we didn't even have one night and people are already starting a witch hunt.


Read more posts than just the one in which you are quoted. I have no vote. So although I voted and make people think he was at L1 he remained at L2. Why do we need to wait for night to lynch someone? We know the scum are there. Day one they haven't talked with one another yet and might do something stupid.



Around the Network
Final-Fan said:

At first I thought Linkzmax's tactic was interesting and maybe worth doing.  But then I thought about it and realized that if it spread, and everyone did that, it would just end up with Day 1 being a complete fucking waste of time with everyone chasing after shadows at best.  So I'm against it, and I wouldn't have been sad if Linkz went unrepentant to the gallows.

I would say that day one's usually are a waste of time here, but this is something I had never thought of before and that isn't something I would want.



Linkzmax said:
Final-Fan said:

At first I thought Linkzmax's tactic was interesting and maybe worth doing.  But then I thought about it and realized that if it spread, and everyone did that, it would just end up with Day 1 being a complete fucking waste of time with everyone chasing after shadows at best.  So I'm against it, and I wouldn't have been sad if Linkz went unrepentant to the gallows.

I would say that day one's usually are a waste of time here, but this is something I had never thought of before and that isn't something I would want.

Day ones are usually a waste here but not always. We have had some very informative ones. I do hope that you don't want everyone not reading their pms enough to go back to reading your own again.



NotStan said:
Linkzmax said:

"Heph, what are the odds of us winning if we vote for no lynch today?" Absolutely nowhere here does it speak about benefiting town. Unless you're telling me that you know Heph to be town already. Further, for Heph to give you odds he'd have to know the actual setup of the round, which is(or damn well better be) impossible regardless of his alignment.

I haven't stopped explaining myself for more than maybe two posts in a row, and I doubt that will change until this day is over. That's fine, I don't mind it one bit. I am not just going to sit back and play defense though, because there are scum to find. You just so happen to have made the post that irks me the most.

Day one almost always ends in no lynch because everyone seems to carry this fear that a mislynch here is going to cost the game. That is why I talked about cutting to the chase and just getting the day over with, because it is such a chore trying to get others to be active. If most(as in even more than a simple majority) would push for lynches, you would see people trying to steer the town as a whole towards or away from lynching certain people. That type of information is very much worth trading a possible mislynch for, and especially in powered games you can see scum trying to keep the lynch off their vital roles even if it would cost a more minor role.

That was in reference to the last game, where he in fact posted the possible scenarios, so if the town mislynched on day one the game would have ended a day early etc, so was wondering whether a lynch was at all necessary to shorten the game and ensure that all the scum are caught. If a mislynch does bugger all difference in regards to shortening/increasing the game length, I may reconsider voting, as of right now, other than you no one really stands out in a way that can be considered suspicious, other than the obvious absence of few individuals - but not all lurkers necesarrily indicate scumminess.

But thus far, I think I am concrete with my vote, day one lynches are fruitless and are commonly based upon almost to no information - there is no knowledge of how mafia kills, if there are any serial killers, vigilantes or any other power roles that could help deduce the scum from town.

He was not the one to post the scenarios last round, though if your memory was that good you'd recall that we had the same number of players last round as this, and so the odds should be the same.

I'm just going to disagree with you on day one lynches being fruitless. I know no lynch to be a better alternative than my lynch so if I'm your only other choice I'm certainly not going to try to convince you that your opinion is wrong.



Linkzmax said:

I'm just going to disagree with you on day one lynches being fruitless. I know no lynch to be a better alternative than my lynch so if I'm your only other choice I'm certainly not going to try to convince you that your opinion is wrong.


there are two ways that bolded can be read you know. :P



Wonktonodi said:
NotStan said:
Wonktonodi said:
NotStan said:

Asking a question in regards to whether a no lynch would be beneficial for town is now considered scummy? Whatever warrants your reason to divert attention to me I suppose.

I always vote no lynch on day one, and will continue to do so in the forseeable future unless something spectacular happens.

Vote No Lynch

Whether you like it or not, most of the time this results in a no lynch or mislynch, in rare intances does it get the correct lynch, I could have hammered Linkz, but decided against it.

Why did you decide agaist voting for linkz?

Also it wouldn't have hammered unless you or someone else is a double voter.

It was at L-1 at one point I think, because it was L-2 before and someone else threw in a vote and I was online at the time.

I didn't decide to vote because there is an off chance that he is pro town, after all we didn't even have one night and people are already starting a witch hunt.


Read more posts than just the one in which you are quoted. I have no vote. So although I voted and make people think he was at L1 he remained at L2. Why do we need to wait for night to lynch someone? We know the scum are there. Day one they haven't talked with one another yet and might do something stupid.

I did, I believe it was linkz who proposed idea of you being actor? I just dismissed it as a theory at the time - and it was proposed after the close encounter anyway.

The scum are there, but with 3/4 maybe 5/6 at most(including possible 3rd parties) it's still almost 1/2 chance of hitting a pro town.



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.