Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Hephaestos said:
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if anything your discution sounds like a victory plan from scum.
Which one has more chance of being lynched tomorow?
HOS GoW.
me saying you're playing well seems to have gotten your tonge untied, fyi this isn't the mafia night forum on how to best plan the town't lynch for the following days without considering any possible info we'd get.
oh yeah cause there's a big flaw in your plan... you don't consider that stefl will survive and give information.
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prof has manipulated you way too easily and you formulate plans for lynching based on no info (what info do you have on FF? none, literally none as he's been just a presence this round). Moreover you keep on insisting on your plan, warranting a push for lynch on whichever of us is left tomorow without the need for any justification.
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Where were you when I proposed this plan earlier ? What I simply said (twice) is, if I had to chose between you and FF for a lynch, I'd chose you, because in the event of a mislynch (assuming both of you are town for some reason), you flipping scum would clear some things for us because you've established more connections with players than final fan, who has been laying low.
FF ? What info do you have on him ? Hypocrite. As you pointed out about his reaction to my vig/sk analysis, it is quite possibly a slip up, and I have a mixed read on him.
Your relationship with wildvine, being sure of a vig, and uneveness makes me suspect you.
I'm not saying we should follow my lynch plan down to the T. That'd be retarded...especially if we have more info to go on. I'm saying that if you flips town, then its a pretty safe bet that final fan is scum. If final-fan flips town, then I wouldn't know wtf to think of you.
You seem to be blaming me for having the foresight to plan ahead, instead of trying to overcome the situation when its too late.
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there's a big difference between announcing a plan during the day and setting up the plan with prof hours/minutes before a hammer falls.
the only info on ff is that he hasn't followed the game closely, there's also a difference between a slip about being scum and a slip about being a lurker, not all lurkers are scum.
So tell me, why would a mafia knowing the hider role would be more sure of a vig than a SK? none, that's why I said you were being manipulated by prof, your whole jibberish was just to try and paint me in a bad light, same as ST's new found interpretations on day one.
And you're completely illogical.
So A) if I flip town FF is scum but if FF flips town I could be town too? that means the chances of me being scum are lower, there is therefore no logic in lynching me with your statement. B) a plan is ok, talking about it as a sure thing is not, especially when it's lynch targets.
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I announced this plan waaay before dude. You even noticed it, saying something like "ofcourse you (vette and ff) agree with the plan, you've voted for me already"
Now you're acting as if I came up with it just before you were hammered. WTF man ? Comes off as desperate to me. Or maybe fear of being lynched is clouding your judgement ?
Why mafia with knowledge of a hider assume vig > sk ? I explained before. Take a look at it pointwise so that you won't misinterpret it, as usual.
1. The hider, and his mates will obviously know that there is a killing role other than themselves.
2. In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.
3. YOU act as if the vig is a sure fire thing. You don't even think his existence is out of the question, before wildvine flips scum hider.
It wasn't to paint you in a bad light...I decided to check what people thought of non mafia killing roles and found interesting info. ST and Linkz are also as bad as you, but I gave them the lover's insurance and they frequently pointed out the possibility of a vig/sk not existing. You on that other hand...only once as you said (hypothesis)...and that too in a question to the mod about winning conditions.
If you flip town, FF is most likely to be scum because I find both of you suspicious, and I'm convinced that one of you has to be scum, based on my read on you and how you've being playing. Your lynch will give us a whole lot to look at, and deduce... Stefl and Prof mostly. That way we'd have info even if none of the investigative roles manage to find anything useful. If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.
I've only said this because it looks like either of you would get lynched, with suspicion tipping over to both of you, changing sides...and we've been like that for as long as I can remember. I don't mind lynching either of you..the town has to decide who has better chances of being scum. If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.