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Hephaestos said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Hey, can somebody quote this message, I want to see how it looks if you were quoted.


it does a blue icon

green for nothing new and orange for new post


heh, that sucks. I liked the title being orange, was way more noticable, but oh well.



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Silver-Tiger said:
Hephaestos said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Hey, can somebody quote this message, I want to see how it looks if you were quoted.


it does a blue icon

green for nothing new and orange for new post


heh, that sucks. I liked the title being orange, was way more noticable, but oh well.

well it's more that they took the same colors for different meanings... and grey did conviene well the "nothing new" idea.



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...in God of War 3.



updated: 14.01.2012

playing right now: Xenoblade Chronicles

Hype-o-meter, from least to most hyped:  the Last Story, Twisted Metal, Mass Effect 3, Final Fantasy XIII-2, Final Fantasy Versus XIII, Playstation ViTA

bet with Mordred11 that Rage will look better on Xbox 360.

Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Hephaestos said:

Unvote

if anything your discution sounds like a victory plan from scum.

Which one has more chance of being lynched tomorow?

 

HOS GoW.

me saying you're playing well seems to have gotten your tonge untied, fyi this isn't the mafia night forum on how to best plan the town't lynch for the following days without considering any possible info we'd get.

oh yeah cause there's a big flaw in your plan... you don't consider that stefl will survive and give information.


Vote GoW

prof has manipulated you way too easily and you formulate plans for lynching based on no info (what info do you have on FF? none, literally none as he's been just a presence this round). Moreover you keep on insisting on your plan, warranting a push for lynch on whichever of us is left tomorow without the need for any justification.

Where were you when I proposed this plan earlier ? What I simply said (twice) is, if I had to chose between you and FF for a lynch, I'd chose you, because in the event of a mislynch (assuming both of you are town for some reason), you flipping scum would clear some things for us because you've established more connections with players than final fan, who has been laying low.

FF ? What info do you have on him ? Hypocrite. As you pointed out about his reaction to my vig/sk analysis, it is quite possibly a slip up, and I have a mixed read on him.

Your relationship with wildvine, being sure of a vig, and uneveness makes me suspect you. 

I'm not saying we should follow my lynch plan down to the T. That'd be retarded...especially if we have more info to go on. I'm saying that if you flips town, then its a pretty safe bet that final fan is scum. If final-fan flips town, then I wouldn't know wtf to think of you.

You seem to be blaming me for having the foresight to plan ahead, instead of trying to overcome the situation when its too late. 

there's a big difference between announcing a plan during the day and setting up the plan with prof hours/minutes before a hammer falls.

the only info on ff is that he hasn't followed the game closely, there's also a difference between a slip about being scum and a slip about being a lurker, not all lurkers are scum.

So tell me, why would a mafia knowing the hider role would be more sure of a vig than a SK? none, that's why I said you were being manipulated by prof, your whole jibberish was just to try and paint me in a bad light, same as ST's new found interpretations on day one.

And you're completely illogical.

So A) if I flip town FF is scum but if FF flips town I could be town too? that means the chances of me being scum are lower, there is therefore no logic in lynching me with your statement. B) a plan is ok, talking about it as a sure thing is not, especially when it's lynch targets.

I announced this plan waaay before dude. You even noticed it, saying something like "ofcourse you (vette and ff) agree with the plan, you've voted for me already" 
 Now you're acting as if I came up with it just before you were hammered. WTF man ? Comes off as desperate to me. Or maybe fear of being lynched is clouding your judgement ?

Why mafia with knowledge of a hider assume vig > sk ? I explained before. Take a look at it pointwise so that you won't misinterpret it, as usual.

1. The hider, and his mates will obviously know that there is a killing role other than themselves.

2. In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.

3. YOU act as if the vig is a sure fire thing. You don't even think his existence is out of the question, before wildvine flips scum hider.

It wasn't to paint you in a bad light...I decided to check what people thought of non mafia killing roles and found interesting info. ST and Linkz are also as bad as you, but I gave them the lover's insurance and they frequently pointed out the possibility of a vig/sk not existing. You on that other hand...only once as you said (hypothesis)...and that too in a question to the mod about winning conditions.

If you flip town, FF is most likely to be scum because I find both of you suspicious, and I'm convinced that one of you has to be scum, based on my read on you and how you've being playing. Your lynch will give us a whole lot to look at, and deduce... Stefl and Prof mostly. That way we'd have info even if none of the investigative roles manage to find anything useful. If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.

I've only said this because it looks like either of you would get lynched, with suspicion tipping over to both of you, changing sides...and we've been like that for as long as I can remember. I don't mind lynching either of you..the town has to decide who has better chances of being scum. If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Hephaestos said:

Unvote

if anything your discution sounds like a victory plan from scum.

Which one has more chance of being lynched tomorow?

 

HOS GoW.

me saying you're playing well seems to have gotten your tonge untied, fyi this isn't the mafia night forum on how to best plan the town't lynch for the following days without considering any possible info we'd get.

oh yeah cause there's a big flaw in your plan... you don't consider that stefl will survive and give information.


Vote GoW

prof has manipulated you way too easily and you formulate plans for lynching based on no info (what info do you have on FF? none, literally none as he's been just a presence this round). Moreover you keep on insisting on your plan, warranting a push for lynch on whichever of us is left tomorow without the need for any justification.

Where were you when I proposed this plan earlier ? What I simply said (twice) is, if I had to chose between you and FF for a lynch, I'd chose you, because in the event of a mislynch (assuming both of you are town for some reason), you flipping scum would clear some things for us because you've established more connections with players than final fan, who has been laying low.

FF ? What info do you have on him ? Hypocrite. As you pointed out about his reaction to my vig/sk analysis, it is quite possibly a slip up, and I have a mixed read on him.

Your relationship with wildvine, being sure of a vig, and uneveness makes me suspect you. 

I'm not saying we should follow my lynch plan down to the T. That'd be retarded...especially if we have more info to go on. I'm saying that if you flips town, then its a pretty safe bet that final fan is scum. If final-fan flips town, then I wouldn't know wtf to think of you.

You seem to be blaming me for having the foresight to plan ahead, instead of trying to overcome the situation when its too late. 

there's a big difference between announcing a plan during the day and setting up the plan with prof hours/minutes before a hammer falls.

the only info on ff is that he hasn't followed the game closely, there's also a difference between a slip about being scum and a slip about being a lurker, not all lurkers are scum.

So tell me, why would a mafia knowing the hider role would be more sure of a vig than a SK? none, that's why I said you were being manipulated by prof, your whole jibberish was just to try and paint me in a bad light, same as ST's new found interpretations on day one.

And you're completely illogical.

So A) if I flip town FF is scum but if FF flips town I could be town too? that means the chances of me being scum are lower, there is therefore no logic in lynching me with your statement. B) a plan is ok, talking about it as a sure thing is not, especially when it's lynch targets.

I announced this plan waaay before dude. You even noticed it, saying something like "ofcourse you (vette and ff) agree with the plan, you've voted for me already" 
 Now you're acting as if I came up with it just before you were hammered. WTF man ? Comes off as desperate to me. Or maybe fear of being lynched is clouding your judgement ?

 

Bla bla bla


read the underline and understand how all you said is irrelevant ^^



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

2) In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.

3) If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.

4) If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.

2. yeah the mafia is so powerfull so, instead of lynching one of the 6 powerless townies we currently have, let's take down one of the only 2 informative roles there are ^^. Your logic is baflingly obvious.

3. same as 2, the logic is wonderfull, you have many suspects so you hit the professed informative role, to remove confusion ^^.

4. I'm sure you would as if there is a vig and no SK, that means for sure that we have 2 more mafia (3 if one is a sibling) so let's see... double misslynch + nightkil = 5 players tomorow... 3 mafia=win. Yeah double lynch is great with lack of info ^^



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Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

2) In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.

3) If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.

4) If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.

2. yeah the mafia is so powerfull so, instead of lynching one of the 6 powerless townies we currently have, let's take down one of the only 2 informative roles there are ^^. Your logic is baflingly obvious.

3. same as 2, the logic is wonderfull, you have many suspects so you hit the professed informative role, to remove confusion ^^.

4. I'm sure you would as if there is a vig and no SK, that means for sure that we have 2 more mafia (3 if one is a sibling) so let's see... double misslynch + nightkil = 5 players tomorow... 3 mafia=win. Yeah double lynch is great with lack of info ^^

Yeah...you've been acting weird the entire day... I've said more than enough as to why I'm suspicious of you. If you think my logic is bad...then thats your opinion. I think its what people like me should do (those who suspect both ff and you)

Double mislynch ? Does that mean Final fan isn't scum in your eyes anymore ? Then why do you have your vote on him ? Hypocrite. You're just trying to prevent yourself from being lynched, as any scumbag would...If a double lynch has the possibility of netting scum, and it meant your sacrifice, wouldn't you let it happen ? I certainly would. 



Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

2) In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.

3) If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.

4) If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.

2. yeah the mafia is so powerfull so, instead of lynching one of the 6 powerless townies we currently have, let's take down one of the only 2 informative roles there are ^^. Your logic is baflingly obvious.

3. same as 2, the logic is wonderfull, you have many suspects so you hit the professed informative role, to remove confusion ^^.

4. I'm sure you would as if there is a vig and no SK, that means for sure that we have 2 more mafia (3 if one is a sibling) so let's see... double misslynch + nightkil = 5 players tomorow... 3 mafia=win. Yeah double lynch is great with lack of info ^^

2.I love how we suddenly have 6 powerless townies.

4. You know that even a regular mislynch would also mean mafia wins tomorrow, right? What happened to your thoughts that I was the SK? Now there's no SK so long as it suits your own arguments?



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

2) In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.

3) If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.

4) If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.

2. yeah the mafia is so powerfull so, instead of lynching one of the 6 powerless townies we currently have, let's take down one of the only 2 informative roles there are ^^. Your logic is baflingly obvious.

3. same as 2, the logic is wonderfull, you have many suspects so you hit the professed informative role, to remove confusion ^^.

4. I'm sure you would as if there is a vig and no SK, that means for sure that we have 2 more mafia (3 if one is a sibling) so let's see... double misslynch + nightkil = 5 players tomorow... 3 mafia=win. Yeah double lynch is great with lack of info ^^

Yeah...you've been acting weird the entire day... I've said more than enough as to why I'm suspicious of you. If you think my logic is bad...then thats your opinion. I think its what people like me should do (those who suspect both ff and you)

Double mislynch ? Does that mean Final fan isn't scum in your eyes anymore ? Then why do you have your vote on him ? Hypocrite. You're just trying to prevent yourself from being lynched, as any scumbag would...If a double lynch has the possibility of netting scum, and it meant your sacrifice, wouldn't you let it happen ? I certainly would. 

no cause that would mean 2 townies for one scum and also that the town will loose 50% of it's info for future days. See a cop comming out for scum is a 1/1 ratio, here you're asking for 2:1.

oh and my vote is currently on you, not FF, i unvoted due to your little talk to prof on how well set the order of lynches is.



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theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

2) In a 13 man game, and based on the power roles they have (blocker, hider), they'd probably think that a third party role for the town to take down in addition to them would be unlikely. Hence, the vig theory.

3) If FF flips town and we lynch him instead of you, my suspicion would splinter again, going back to vetteman, you, and mildly to stefl too (since you might be trying to cover for him) and ofcourse FF. So I think we'd be really confused in that regard, on day 3...like today.

4) If I could get a double lynch on you, I'd be really happy, cause day 3 will be easy for the town.

2. yeah the mafia is so powerfull so, instead of lynching one of the 6 powerless townies we currently have, let's take down one of the only 2 informative roles there are ^^. Your logic is baflingly obvious.

3. same as 2, the logic is wonderfull, you have many suspects so you hit the professed informative role, to remove confusion ^^.

4. I'm sure you would as if there is a vig and no SK, that means for sure that we have 2 more mafia (3 if one is a sibling) so let's see... double misslynch + nightkil = 5 players tomorow... 3 mafia=win. Yeah double lynch is great with lack of info ^^

2.I love how we suddenly have 6 powerless townies.

4. You know that even a regular mislynch would also mean mafia wins tomorrow, right? What happened to your thoughts that I was the SK? Now there's no SK so long as it suits your own arguments?

2) sibling haven't mentionned any power (1-2), vette says vanilla (3), you say such vanilla and implied it when you responded to wonk (4), FF alluded to one but never gave details either way (5), Gow didn't mention a thing (6).

that's 6 townies who for all intents and purposes are currently powerless. Do you wish to claim to change the numbers? be my guest, but until then stop spamming baseless statements to devalue mine.

4) the discution is with gow, the basis of his vote is that to him i was confident that there was a vig. How is talking of an SK even part of the discution?

thanks for yet again an other baseless statement meant only to show me in a bad light...; moreover you're wrong, with an SK in play the worst case scenario is 2vs2vs1 so still fully winnable for town.



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