FF wasn't hammered, Baal counted my vote twice, or to be exact, he forgot to remove my vote on FF.

Actually nevermind...to get a double lynch, stefl would have to vote final fan. :/

oh ok, well

vote FF

@GoW

It's just that Heph claims to have a role, FF hasn't, well I want to put a little more pressure on FF. I feel that either lynch is good, to be honest.  FF has been off his game as well as Heph, making mistakes, and generally acting like he has no idea what is going on. That initially pointed at doc or cop to me, so I've held off. But I no longer believe he is either of those roles, so I'm pressuring for more input from him.

Yeah... I want him to give me some info as well. Like a nameclaim. But FF did hint at having a role, when he was nearing a lynch a few days ago.

If we can't get a double lynch today, i'd love to see heph being lynched today and making our decision for tomorrow based on that. It makes the most sense long term imo. Keeping heph alive till tomorrow, and if FF flips town today, will be devastating. Since it raises a lot of questions about stefl as well. 

If heph flips town today, then that pretty much confirms stefl is town, and we can lynch final fan with no hesitation on day 3.

If either flips scum, then thats obviously great !

ok, I'm asking Final-Fan to do something against his lynch.

I'm highly suspsicious of him, but I'n not willing to lynch him yet, until he reveals something more from himself.

I already asked you when I voted for you, but you didn't respond.

haha, that would be great of course, but from my experience in mafiascum games nothing goes as planned before. :)

Unvote

if anything your discution sounds like a victory plan from scum.

Which one has more chance of being lynched tomorow?

HOS GoW.

me saying you're playing well seems to have gotten your tonge untied, fyi this isn't the mafia night forum on how to best plan the town't lynch for the following days without considering any possible info we'd get.

oh yeah cause there's a big flaw in your plan... you don't consider that stefl will survive and give information.

Vote GoW

prof has manipulated you way too easily and you formulate plans for lynching based on no info (what info do you have on FF? none, literally none as he's been just a presence this round). Moreover you keep on insisting on your plan, warranting a push for lynch on whichever of us is left tomorow without the need for any justification.

you know you basically just said that which ever of us is lynched, gow's plan fails as it'll be a townie....

HoS ST

Where were you when I proposed this plan earlier ? What I simply said (twice) is, if I had to chose between you and FF for a lynch, I'd chose you, because in the event of a mislynch (assuming both of you are town for some reason), you flipping scum would clear some things for us because you've established more connections with players than final fan, who has been laying low.

FF ? What info do you have on him ? Hypocrite. As you pointed out about his reaction to my vig/sk analysis, it is quite possibly a slip up, and I have a mixed read on him.

Your relationship with wildvine, being sure of a vig, and uneveness makes me suspect you. 

I'm not saying we should follow my lynch plan down to the T. That'd be retarded...especially if we have more info to go on. I'm saying that if you flips town, then its a pretty safe bet that final fan is scum. If final-fan flips town, then I wouldn't know wtf to think of you.

You seem to be blaming me for having the foresight to plan ahead, instead of trying to overcome the situation when its too late. 

there's a big difference between announcing a plan during the day and setting up the plan with prof hours/minutes before a hammer falls.

the only info on ff is that he hasn't followed the game closely, there's also a difference between a slip about being scum and a slip about being a lurker, not all lurkers are scum.

So tell me, why would a mafia knowing the hider role would be more sure of a vig than a SK? none, that's why I said you were being manipulated by prof, your whole jibberish was just to try and paint me in a bad light, same as ST's new found interpretations on day one.

And you're completely illogical.

So A) if I flip town FF is scum but if FF flips town I could be town too? that means the chances of me being scum are lower, there is therefore no logic in lynching me with your statement. B) a plan is ok, talking about it as a sure thing is not, especially when it's lynch targets.