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Final-Fan said:

In some ways it kind of makes sense.  I almost remember posts of his consistent with the "deduction" interpretation. 

In other ways, it's complerely ridiculous that this should ever happen and I suspect he's scum backing out of giving us his mafia role cop result. 

I'll check back to the day's early posts.

ah, it seems my post was too agressive seeing this. Do go check ^^



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Hephaestos said:

well then it's decided. Actually Stefl's role is only more powerfull if people know... though his fate depends on the protection he gets.

 

Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.

 

What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions... this prompted me to vote directly instead of inquiering. Stefl saying he knew at dawn made me tick to the questions he asked day one.

The 4 people he had as targets yesterday were Trucks, Proff and I guess the lovers.... his choice of Trucks was wise as the lovers were likely to die and Proff too (errr).

 

On that FoS FF, FoS Proff for wanting to know the role, now please let stefl ask you a question, and do answer truthfully ^^.

This CLEARLY implies that the italicized is direct flavor.  Either quoted word-for-word or paraphrased, this is information given to you by ABC and not deduced on your own.  Die in a fire. 



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Something that bothered me, but I kept away from so far because of my inferiority in english is this -

"stefl thinks trucks asked too many questions"... if stefl is the lie detector shouldn't it be "trucks thinks stefl asked too many questions" ?

I don't think anyone here has the balls for a double lynch, unfortunately. I'm ok with either of you two at the moment, since vette is out of the equation.

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I need to think about today's lynch more...since either of these guys, if mislynches would be town power. FF hinted at it, and I thought he was laying low because of that initially and heph more or less roleclaimed.



Final-Fan said:
Hephaestos said:
well then it's decided. Actually Stefl's role is only more powerfull if people know... though his fate depends on the protection he gets.
--Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.

--What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions... this prompted me to vote directly instead of inquiering. Stefl saying he knew at dawn made me tick to the questions he asked day one.
--The 4 people he had as targets yesterday were Trucks, Proff and I guess the lovers.... his choice of Trucks was wise as the lovers were likely to die and Proff too (errr).
--On that FoS FF, FoS Proff for wanting to know the role, now please let stefl ask you a question, and do answer truthfully ^^.

This CLEARLY implies that the italicized is direct flavor.  Either quoted word-for-word or paraphrased, this is information given to you by ABC and not deduced on your own.  Die in a fire. 

Let's take this step by step: 

1.  Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.
The statement in question. 

2.  "What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions..."
This refers to "your flavor" making you think about stefl asking too many questions.  The italicized statement is also about asking questions, even though I am bewildered at how you could interpret it that way.  So this is evidence, perhaps, that it's paraphrased; but it is also very definitely evidence that the italicized is NOT your own conclusion but information that was GIVEN to you, as "flavor", by ABC. 

3.  Also, if your flavor is talking about people asking questions, that goes WAY WAY beyond the only pro-town role that I can see it making sense for you to have, which is tracker. 

(@ Linkz:  I hope that's not the one that was so clear to you, on account of it totally not explaining all this other shit.) 

4.  I can even kind of see why you'd think Stefl was mafia with that flavor if carelessly read.  "At dawn, Stefl knew" could possibly be interpreted as flavor dark humor for "Stefl killed him and he flipped".  But that's not important AFAIK.  If you think it's important how exactly you misread the info you got, and I've got it wrong, then feel free to enlighten me. 



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Also I don't know how anyone could, NOT knowing of the existence of the lie detector, successfully peg someone as having that exact power, with such a high level of confidence that they feel competent to OUT that person as that role. 



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Final-Fan said:

Also I don't know how anyone could, NOT knowing of the existence of the lie detector, successfully peg someone as having that exact power, with such a high level of confidence that they feel competent to OUT that person as that role. 

Could it be because Stefl asked questions that were hilariously stupid on day 1 ? Or maybe Heph was a fucking genius.

I don't know. All I know is that I'm tired of this bitchassmotherfucking day dragging out so long...with people repeating the same bs over and over again, lynches dragging on forever among other covulated retardedness. I doubt zarx' lynch would've happened if not for the time limit.

Also, you...you're going down..on day 3 if not today. That post you made in response to my SK/Vig analysis is a slip up. Don't try to deny it. But if we lynch heph today, we might be able to stop the mafia from knowing another pro-town role ? 

I've been contemplating flipping a coin to decide. :/

Could both of you nameclaim ? That'll give us something new to look at.

That way, I'll decide who to lynch. 

Ma sexy ideas on who to lynch

I'm convinced that atleast one of you is scum.

We lynch heph today. If pro-town, we lynch final fan tomorrow. If anti-town, we take a good look at Stefl.

OR,

We lynch FF today. If pro-town, we lynch heph tomorrow ? Or is that too risky cause it means that stefl (who heph might have been covering for) would get another day ? If anti-town, we take a look at vetteman, while keeping our eyes on heph ?

I think lynching heph today might be better off in the long term (day 3) because of this.

I need everyone's input on this. This is why I was keen on a 2x lynch earlier. Stefl would either be cleared of suspicion tomorrow, or raise suspicions, and we're highly likely to hit mafia cause of the way these 2 clowns are playing.



Final-Fan said:
Hephaestos said:

well then it's decided. Actually Stefl's role is only more powerfull if people know... though his fate depends on the protection he gets.

 

Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.

 

What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions... this prompted me to vote directly instead of inquiering. Stefl saying he knew at dawn made me tick to the questions he asked day one.

The 4 people he had as targets yesterday were Trucks, Proff and I guess the lovers.... his choice of Trucks was wise as the lovers were likely to die and Proff too (errr).

 

On that FoS FF, FoS Proff for wanting to know the role, now please let stefl ask you a question, and do answer truthfully ^^.

This CLEARLY implies that the italicized is direct flavor.  Either quoted word-for-word or paraphrased, this is information given to you by ABC and not deduced on your own.  Die in a fire. 

read the 2 things I put in bold than revise your statement thanks ^^



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

Something that bothered me, but I kept away from so far because of my inferiority in english is this -

"stefl thinks trucks asked too many questions"... if stefl is the lie detector shouldn't it be "trucks thinks stefl asked too many questions" ?

I don't think anyone here has the balls for a double lynch, unfortunately. I'm ok with either of you two at the moment, since vette is out of the equation.

Unvote

I need to think about today's lynch more...since either of these guys, if mislynches would be town power. FF hinted at it, and I thought he was laying low because of that initially and heph more or less roleclaimed


because this isn't the flavor I got!

I really do hope there is 2 mafia factions cause 3 people missreading again and again is really a bit much...



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Final-Fan said:

Let's take this step by step: 

1.  Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.
The statement in question. 

2.  "What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions..."
This refers to "your flavor" making you think about stefl asking too many questions.  The italicized statement is also about asking questions, even though I am bewildered at how you could interpret it that way.  So this is evidence, perhaps, that it's paraphrased; but it is also very definitely evidence that the italicized is NOT your own conclusion but information that was GIVEN to you, as "flavor", by ABC. 

3.  Also, if your flavor is talking about people asking questions, that goes WAY WAY beyond the only pro-town role that I can see it making sense for you to have, which is tracker. 

(@ Linkz:  I hope that's not the one that was so clear to you, on account of it totally not explaining all this other shit.) 

4.  I can even kind of see why you'd think Stefl was mafia with that flavor if carelessly read.  "At dawn, Stefl knew" could possibly be interpreted as flavor dark humor for "Stefl killed him and he flipped".  But that's not important AFAIK.  If you think it's important how exactly you misread the info you got, and I've got it wrong, then feel free to enlighten me. 


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3 wtf?

4 feel free to actually read the thread, i'm not making 50 new posts for the poor townies to read because a scum decided to join other scum's crusades ^^



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

Could it be because Stefl asked questions that were hilariously stupid on day 1 ? Or maybe Heph was a fucking genius.

bla bla bla

Could both of you nameclaim ? That'll give us something new to look at.

bla bla bla

I removed the bla bla parts.

Little Jacob

and a funny thing when i reread my pm :p but that comment will wait for the dead thread.



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