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theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:

(all that above is like the first 100 posts of the day till the stefl is LD post.... rest of the day has been prof asking me to paraphrase 100 times the flavor, introducing the RB theory and peopel casting votes arround (I voted for everyone but the siblings if I recall ^^)).


yes because every paraphrase that you've given me is just so obviously lie detector. So so obvious. I can't understand how you didn't get it.

such honnesty ^^

theprof00 said:

Actually my guess was that stefl was an amnesiac cop, and heph was a tracker, and that stefl had investigated ToS while Heph followed stefl and the results were sent randomly to Heph, hence why he said, "I doubt I'll get any other flavor".

The big piece of this puzzle that is still missing is why Heph thinks he won't get any flavor later, and why the flavor that he gotmade him think lie detector. "stefl thinks trucks asks too many questions" doesn't come off to me as lie detector, and doesn't even come off as mafia. If I were to read that in my pm, I would think trucks is a cop or some kind of investigator.



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Silver-Tiger said:
theprof00 said:

and now FF is offline.

Guys, you know, I'm pretty sure he said he would divulge info once linkz explained his vote. I don't think randomly voting people to claim is the brightest of ideas.

But I might as well ask, ST do you have another role?

I do not.

Actually, you reminded me of the only thing I found odd about Linkz. He pointed at having another role. be it the envy that he has a power and I not or my natural instinct telling me something stinks here, I don't know.

For the record: I still trust Linkz, I just find this piece of information interesting.

I'll role/vanilla claim(as in state definitively if I have an ability or not, but not which if the case is I do) with everyone else left(GOW and FF I believe) if they decide we all should.(This is what I mean by marginalizing, as best as possible without forcing random actions, scum tracker/role cop) My vote on FF wasn't trying to get a claim either, nor would I have voted GOW to try and get him to claim. It's just process of elimination(or narrowing the pool for today at least) and then trying to force a lynch race.



Vetteman94 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
theprof00 said:

and now FF is offline.

Guys, you know, I'm pretty sure he said he would divulge info once linkz explained his vote. I don't think randomly voting people to claim is the brightest of ideas.

But I might as well ask, ST do you have another role?

I do not.

Actually, you reminded me of the only thing I found odd about Linkz. He pointed at having another role. be it the envy that he has a power and I not or my natural instinct telling me something stinks here, I don't know.

For the record: I still trust Linkz, I just find this piece of information interesting.

And thats the main reason why I think you are scum,  he has a role you dont because you are Mafia.

Ahhh, finally a post where you point a finger at a single one of us being the treacherous lover. That had been the most troublesome aspect to me as far as you're concerned day two.



Linkzmax said:
Vetteman94 said:
Silver-Tiger said:
theprof00 said:

and now FF is offline.

Guys, you know, I'm pretty sure he said he would divulge info once linkz explained his vote. I don't think randomly voting people to claim is the brightest of ideas.

But I might as well ask, ST do you have another role?

I do not.

Actually, you reminded me of the only thing I found odd about Linkz. He pointed at having another role. be it the envy that he has a power and I not or my natural instinct telling me something stinks here, I don't know.

For the record: I still trust Linkz, I just find this piece of information interesting.

And thats the main reason why I think you are scum,  he has a role you dont because you are Mafia.

Ahhh, finally a post where you point a finger at a single one of us being the treacherous lover. That had been the most troublesome aspect to me as far as you're concerned day two.

Well it could be either of you really,  but he is the one I believe is the scum half of you two.  But I am curious as to why that would matter,  other than the obvious that I would still find you suspicious.



theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

1. You forget that the confidence in alignment can switch at the drop of a hat. I can say, "GoW is confirmed townie because of x,y, and z". But then the next day, that all collapses when he says something fishy.

nice definition of confirmed townie.....

LOL Heph, you are just asking repeatedly for suspicion.

NO TOWNIE IS EVER CONFIRMED. So stop undermining me. Obvtown means as close as you can get, but things always change. Supericial arguments are all you have at this point, with a superficial vote.

Sorry prof, I'm with Heph on this one. YOU said "confirmed townie" and I would say confirmed townies do exist, though they are few and far between. 'obvtown', which does not equal confirmed townie, is more common and the read on them can change with any slip, but it isn't what you said.



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Hephaestos said:
Silver-Tiger said:
Hephaestos said:

this made me think of linkz and ST.... ST would be the green one ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGuBTlJDki8&feature=related

no way, he wouldn't.

 

...You wouldn't, do you Linkz?

see he's not even answering you! ignoring you! tssss....

I never enter a level with Yoshi without wearing a cape so we can fly together!

Mafia-wise this couldn't even be the case. If ST is town and I'm mafia then I'd(nor my mate(s) would) never gain the upper hand with "sacrificing" ST. At least I don't think that should be possible, and so even if it were so I wouldn't do it.



Stefl1504 said:

To be honest I think it would be sound for the game if we would end the day sooner or later, since we are somehow geting nowhere...

Unvote

Vote Time Limit

Why did you unvote? Why didn't you vote someone else?



Final-Fan said:

I shouldn't have complained you didn't specify your role, because obviously there's a good reason not to.  But what I SHOULD have compained about, what I meant to complain about, was that it seemed like you were saying "you should totally be able to figure it out, look at GoW he did", when in fact he TOTALLY DIDN'T and NO ONE seems to have and ONLY YOU think it's clear.  Thanks for wasting my time. 

If Heph is indeed town then I figured out his role almost immediately, and further reinforced that when I said, "There's only one role I can see [Heph] having that would cause [Heph] to vote and then unvote for Stefl." Source And this was even before Heph announced that his 'extra info' was flavoring unexpected for his role. I don't believe I've ever stated what the role must be, because it's not like a town Heph would confirm it anyway and it does no good to spell it out for scum in case they haven't gotten it, but everyone is certainly capable of figuring it out. I noticed prof did unless he was just using a bizarre synonym for something else he meant.

The thing that is really odd is the flavor along with the result. The only reason to possibly make that up(which would mean scum) is to try and convince me(since he'd know I was town and thus did receive the PMs I said I did) that ABC is still taking a very hands-on approach. It'd be foolish to earn my always-wary trust at the cost of extra suspicion from everyone else.



Vetteman94 said:
Linkzmax said:
Vetteman94 said:
Silver-Tiger said:

And thats the main reason why I think you are scum,  he has a role you dont because you are Mafia.

Ahhh, finally a post where you point a finger at a single one of us being the treacherous lover. That had been the most troublesome aspect to me as far as you're concerned day two.

Well it could be either of you really,  but he is the one I believe is the scum half of you two.  But I am curious as to why that would matter,  other than the obvious that I would still find you suspicious.

It matters because if you don't think one of us specifically is scum, then you're merely metaing the roles and saying one of us has to be scum based on nothing. It's generally bad logic to make such a statement without a direct contradiction between two people, and it's certainly bad play.('Who cares which one we lynch, after nightfall we'll get 1 mafia either way... I think')



FF, Sorry but my case(unless it ends up on GOW) is going to have to wait one more day. Mentally I'm primed and spotting a lot of things, but physically I need to lay down and I've got to head out anyway.