Oh that makes perfect sense

I dismissed siblings, because I was going strictly by the PM's use of "lover" and absence of "sibling" even though lovers are a sub-type of siblings. I did not want to reveal the link at all in case ST was also town, because then mafia would know they have a 2 for 1 opportunity whenever they want. If he's scum then his mates would learn of the relationship at night anyway, so reveal or not wouldn't make a difference.

Sorry all for my absence. Catching up now, then I'll see if I can get into the case against FF. Tonight is my last night housesitting, so starting tomorrow I'll be posting frequently at night like I usually have in the past.

Stefl can only 'run a polygraph' on posts from today?

yes because every paraphrase that you've given me is just so obviously lie detector. So so obvious. I can't understand how you didn't get it.

RB is not a theory. I was blocked. That's a fact. If you're not lynched today, I'm going to be upset. All you find wrong with my play is that you think they're lies. You have no real argument. Your harping at the 4th vote is totally hypocritical with your own third vote, then unvote on FF just yesterday.

Meanwhile, you undermine every point I make, and spam the thread with spins of my words. If I say, I think you need to die, you'll say, "yes, because you're mafia. Of course you want a townie to die". It's spam and nothing more.

Do you realize I was the one that explained lynching you or prof(compared to others) would provide information? I also said it was likely best not to lynch either of you. prof made exactly the same kind of comment as you.

YOU say there is a blocker. Nobody but the RB and possibly his scummate know that to be true. It's possible, but doubtful that scum will try to both block and kill Stefl.

You're narrowing of the pool seems fruitless when you pair it with "the confidence in alignment can switch at the drop of a hat. I can say, "GoW is confirmed townie because of x,y, and z". But then the next day, that all collapses when he says something fishy." I don't want to see every player pointing fingers at everyone else, but it's not a bad thing to have people focusing on different groups. Hopefully one(ideally two) suspect(s) will emerge as someone that the majority(or near-majority) agree is most suspicious and likely to be scum.

What is with everyone's insistence on there being a cop!? It's already been said that LD and cop will not exist together. The cop is barely hindered by being random'd through claiming, and it is quite probable that there is an actual kill-protection role to hopefully keep the cop alive for at least one more night. A cop claim would undoubtedly net at least one scum, so there's no reason for the cop not to have come out when requested. Yet there's been no claim.

Obviously within that paragraph I agree there's a doc(or other protection) and I'd bet on another killing role outside of mafia, though I'm torn between vig and SK still.

i have no idea how that works ^^... but i hope it's not direct questions as there have been few

yet his logic on me is that ^^

I think you're confused on the first part. Wonk and ABC were both scum their first games, and I believe it was Wonk that asked everyone not to talk about earlier games.

As for the second part, I apologize for not having as much time this game as last, but I doubt I'd have cleared many players this time around even if I did. Last game I had the benefit of KNOWing my 'partner' was a townie, whereas this time I only have strong reasoning to THINK that is the case. I had also got lucky and tried to track a role that HAD to be town, but no such luck here. Finally, I was able to tarnish myself a bit, yet I did more mud-flinging day one that was revealing later on. This time around I made as big a scene as one can make without actually being lynched, and while my analysis of that scene did turn up at least one scum, there's bound to be less connections there because nobody felt pressured to answer anything with my neck looking to be noosed.

That being said, beyond the strong reasoning to THINK ST is town, I'm still stuck on ABC practically confirming Vette. His vote didn't really match his stated stance on day one; however, the attitude I get from him reminds me of the game where he was vehemently opposed to anonymous replacements. Stefl is as close to confirmed townie(barring a cop claim) as we're likely to get and that's regardless of Heph's alignment.

I do not like a Heph lynch today, because even if he is scum power(Tracker or role cop) then it is possible to marginalize him to a mafia goon. On the other hand, if he really is town power then he forces scum to decide whether to block the likely doc-targeted Stefl and kill Heph, who seems to rank pretty high on quite a few people's suspect lists, or gamble some other action.

I didn't like your lynch because I thought you were lying about being vanilla, but if that's the truth than at the very least you're a better lynch than Vette(Seeing as I believe he's town and wouldn't vote to lynch him anyway) in order to confirm the existence of an RB. I STILL don't think that's a good idea though, and would rather lynch someone else.

That leaves GOW and FF. GOW was my 'if there's 3 scum on my lynch, he's one of them' idea, but otherwise I don't recall anything that stood out as scummy to me. For FF it's the opposite, his distancing from my lynch gave me cause to wonder if he was just being careful scum. I'm still going to reread everything and make a better case there. Or if the reread makes me think townie instead, I'll look into GOW.