It is sheer insanity how badly you're playing right now. We KNOW there is a blocker, we KNOW there is going to be a kill. Mafia are going to do anything to get rid of stefl including possibly using both powers on him. I answered his question on the first day. I EVEN SAID, "just in case of a LD I win with town, I'm not a complicated role. If the game were to end tonight, I would win with town".

YOU on the other hand, and FF as well, answered "are you town" AFTER we knew there was a roleblocker. And you ACT like it means anything more than jack-shit.

Don't think I don't realize what you're doing Heph. You're making sure that as many players as possible are suspects, because currently, the pool is being narrowed, and that's dangerous to the mafia. All the anyone needs to do is read either my or GoW's posts to see the truth. I'm not asking for faith-trust, I'm asking the players to do their damn jobs and read the game. It's easy, open every page, ctrlF (player name), and then just read their posts and decide whether they are scum motivated or not.

Also, notice that Vette has made references to the treacherous lover thing multiple times on day 2. 

BAHAHAH a lot of nonsense.

Please everyone notice this. Vette turns on me if even in the slightest, and Heph is quick to jump on board with this garbage.

Let me explain:

HOS proff for lynching based on info provided.

"Heph confirms stefl"
WHAT A JOKE. Anybody can see the game you're playing Heph. Like you confirming a townie has any implication that you're town. Are you trying to make yourself similar to me? Seriously? So I should lynch myself because a mafia scum has confirmed stefl as being town? Man, that took such a strong town power role to do that, amirite guys? He's a benefit to the team, definitely.

Umm, what? I have a solid case? Really?

You even said that that evidence had no merit, and that you were just using it to tease me and get a read on me. In fact, I've brought that very case up several times as reasoning why you were scum, because although you KNOW and ADMITTED that it had no bearing, you were trying to use it as evidence, and now here you are using it as evidence.

If you're not scum, FOR SHAME.

What evidence does this support? That I lied? That I tried to trick someone into confessing, and if it wasn't for wonk and FF pressing me, it might've worked? You don't think that actually reflects badly on FF? Wait...the title of this evidence is "lies to get votes on someone".  Anyone can just read the day and see that's not the case.

Inconsistent?

GoW IS obvtown. In fact, I said that AFTER those three links. Nice try making it look like I said GoW is obvtown but then writing that he's a suspect. It's called "refining a theory". I look at the case. I study the day. I re-read. I read different people, I change my mind. Just because I suspected GoW at one point, doesn't mean I can't think he's town. READ THE THREAD people.

I'm not asking you to paraphrase you role info. I'm asking you to paraphrase the "flavor" that you got that you said you wouldn't get again. You even attributed the extra flavor to ABC attempting to rebalance the game after "confirming" Vette. You have made it 100% clear that the flavor you got has nothing to do with your role.

Why did I never out myself? I shouldn't. I don't have a role. I've only been pretending to have one.  But look who drew a roleblock. This is how wonk SHOULD have played. Taken the fall. Why should I answer anything he asks..?.

If town doesn't trust me, all you have to do is look at who is AT LEAST making points that make sense, EVEN if you think they might be scum motivated. There shouldn't be any that look like that, because if you think I'm making ties with one person, I've done it with EVERYONE (that's what she said lol).

Just look at my points. They may SOUND wild, but they logically make sense. I pointed out that Heph is trying to fill the pool. He's had his vote on every single player short of wonk and the lovers during day 2.

Day 1, I made the point that Heph was harping too much about the 4th vote/unvote to be serious. He ADMITTED that it was "to get and read on you, and I'm just having fun teasing you". Yet NOW, it's credible evidence. You want to talk about inconsistency? That is what inconsistency is. It's not changing your mind on the credibility of a player, it's saying something doesn't really mean anything and then using it to mean something.

If anyone has questions for me, please, read through the thread. Read my posts. Let my allay your mind. I am town. I'm a damn good town. If you have questions for me, just ask yourself what my position does to either a) benefit myself, or b) benefit scum.

You should provide context.

I've been thinking for a short while now that vette is actually a cop. It's been a very brief feeling. After all, he can't possibly know 2 players motives unless he saw some major connections.

Are you saying that he's scum and KNOWS about the treacherous lover though is focused on Heph? That way, when a treacherous lover shows up, it makes it look like he's smart and an asset?

Or are you saying that he's trying to set them up?

Or maybe he has a role that gives player roles? A role cop is usually mafia, and he'd be safe from anyone knowing his own role...I dunno..

Please provide context.

Also Heph, you make it seem like getting randomed as a tracker, or whatever you claim to be, is such a bad thing. Since, to you, everyone is a suspect, you still know who you follow and still would get a result. And that can even be a good thing. Your "hesitation" is *most suspicious*.

MOST SUSPICIOUS

And I will probably do it a few more times,  in fact I could write a 1000 word post referencing them in the entire thing.  WHat I find funny is you seem to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are both town

I have reread the thread,  and I have yet to get an obvious town feeling from GoW.  There is only one person who gets that from me,  and it because he was confirmed as one.  

I think he's trying to draw attention away from the Heph/Stefl situation and quite possibly trying to divert the pressure on him to them. 

I said in my earlier post that if we lynch Heph today, and if he's pro-town, we'd be losing a power role. But I forgot that if he is scum, and he did actually know Stefl visited ToS (I don't see where heph mentioned it before Stefl claiming that he did, though) we'd be taking down a scum power role.

Either way, a Heph lynch isn't a gamble I'm ready to take. If he isn't lynched by tomorrow, maybe the cop can look into him ? That looks the safest way to handle the Heph situation imo.

I don't. But its the most probable thing. I'm not ruling that possibility out, but with the behaviour of certain people on this day, going after the lovers isn't exactly the wisest thing to do.

As I've said before earlier on day 2, I was torn on whether to vote you or FF..I voted for you because I have a feeling that FF is a power role trying to lay low. I'm not entirely convinced on that though, sinceyou could probably be the same. I think one of you has to be the roleblocker though. And lynching one of you will confirm that.

Who do you think we should lynch today, Vetteman ??

don't forget that linkzmax implied that he might have a role other than lover as well. So, both ST and Linkz may have roles. Usually, in a treacherous lover format, ie; a mafia sibling, the town sibling has an important role. Therefore, even if the town side knows he is scum, he is willing to put it off until later because he will have to sacrifice an important town role as well.

As I see it, we probably have a doc a cop and a vig. Vette could be one, so could linkz, and either you or FF is the other. If you aren't one, and this is a decision that you'll have to make yourself, that would mean FF (linkz or st) and Vette are all power roles.