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theprof00 said:

But anyway, I'm not going to argue. I'd much rather wait to hear what heph has to say about his role before anything major happens.


why the hell would I talk about my role any more than I already have?

there's 3 pages on me paraphrasing already and 3/4 got the correct idea. You're the only one (and FF) that keep on making wild theories on it.



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theprof00 said:

also, what unholy alliance, I've had him voted for most of day2.

experience tells that early votes seldom get lynched.



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theprof00 said:

the answers will be given tonight when we lynch one of them, vig kills the other, and mafia kill another.

So, I have to factor that in as well in the strategy section of the nightkills. Previously, I said that mafia will want to kill either me or gow. since killing any of the other players would result in a narrowing of the pool.

I hadn't considered that I'm part of the pool as well. Therefore, whoever they kill helps us no matter what. At first I thought either me or gow would be safe kills, but it's not looking safe to mafia at all, now.


wtf are you blabing about?

so now you say "oh we won't get killed after all".



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Linkzmax said:

Wonktonodi said:

you really think the person the mafia will kill tonight is going to be st a benefit to the town?

Evidence so far points to Stefl being the most dangerous player to scum, and thus also most likely to get protection tonight. Anyone else that dies tonight will narrow down the pool and possible connections.


evidence points at Stefl not asking enough questions... a proff/GoW team would currently be scott free from him.



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ok and

Unvote Vette


HoS Proff for lynching people based on "Info" provided.

FF -> no info

Vette -> no info

Heph -> confirms stefl

Gow -> no info

Proff -> confirms RB

Lovers -> no info

Great logic here ^^.

 

Vote Proff, i'm fed up, I said i'd just study you (day one), but you're spreading more confusion than anything. You clearly geard up now and guess what, you're the only person that actually has a solid case against them!

 

Exhibit A, momentum voter (prof's very own tool... that he dismissed day one as "you guys don't know the significance of it"):

4th voter on Linkz

4th unvoter on Linkz

Kept saying "I really want to lynch him" day one, yet did not keep him on the L-1 position and started voting elsewhere, before the lover reveal. This looks as safe voting from scum. (part of the crowd).

 

Exhibit B, lies to get votes started on someone:

Vette is the RB, I know it... well no I don't.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4066500

confession

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4066544

Moreover, the claim of RB as mafia is easy... we won't be sure unless the last mafia is dead and prof can claim being perma blocked ^^

 

Exhibit C, inconsistant:

GoW is obvtown, vette is one of my suspects

errr.... http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4066492

umh...http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4070897

yeah....http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4070906

 

Exhibit D, Claims a role:

... but won't even hint at it while asking me 10 000 times to paraphrase mine again (so that I slip and get randomed):

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4066517

Why did you never answer Wonk on this? you directely deflected it back to the flavor of my result.



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Hephaestos said:

1) I'll translate: proff is frustrated that he has no ground to ask for my ability to be random whereas he is confident that Stefl has not asked enough questions yet (FF Vette Me are the only possible targets... and vett is only on "who he targeted last night").

2) NO, the other way arround... of MY suspects, Stefl was the one with least heat on him. Also, as scum, I would have the person with the least heat and thus least likely to be coped/tracked/LDed do the kill.... hence why in my mind, Stefl was the most likely to yield an incriminating result.

1) You said that your "flavor" had nothing to do with your role and that it would be unlikely for you to get it again on future nights. Hence, you should be able to divulge that information freely. In fact, you specifically said it was not your role result, but flavor that you got that you thought was arbitrary. Given the nature that you THOUGHT it was arbitrary PROVES that your role does not return flavor. Simple enough? Then why won't you say it?

2) I asked you time and time again why you went after stefl. I asked you what evidence you had and you said (and I quote) "nothing", BUT, you followed by saying "let's just say that suspicion draws attention". Yet, above you're saying that the person with the least heat would be the mafia that does the kill. I'm not going to argue who was more or less suspicious, but if you're looking for mafia, shouldn't you at least be tracking someone with SOME kind of evidence?



Votes to Lynch: Player Name: L-4 L-3
L-4 Vette GodofWar -
L-3 Final-Fan
SilverTiger Linkz
L-3 Heph Final-Fan Prof
L-4 Prof Heph -

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With 8 voters, 5 votes will result in a lynch

L-5; Stefl: Heph, (Heph), Prof, (Prof)

L-5; GodofWar: Heph, (Heph), Prof, (Prof)

L-3; Heph: Final-Fan, (Final-Fan), Final-Fan, Prof

L-3; Final-Fan: Heph, (Heph), SilverTiger, Linkz

L-4; Vette: Prof, Heph, (Prof), GodofWar, Prof, (Prof), (Heph)

L-4; Prof: Heph

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Voting History:

Heph: Stefl->Unvote->GodofWar->Unvote->Final-Fan->Unvote->Vette->Unvote->Prof

Final-Fan: Heph->Unvote->Heph

Prof: Stefl->Unvote->Vette->Unvote->GodofWar->Unvote->Vette->Unvote->Heph

GodofWar: Vette

SilverTiger: Final-Fan

Linkz: Final-Fan

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Any corrections would be greatly appreciated.

Edit: Nobody is at L-2, I simply forgot to remove the row.  Edited out now.



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Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:

the answers will be given tonight when we lynch one of them, vig kills the other, and mafia kill another.

So, I have to factor that in as well in the strategy section of the nightkills. Previously, I said that mafia will want to kill either me or gow. since killing any of the other players would result in a narrowing of the pool.

I hadn't considered that I'm part of the pool as well. Therefore, whoever they kill helps us no matter what. At first I thought either me or gow would be safe kills, but it's not looking safe to mafia at all, now.


wtf are you blabing about?

so now you say "oh we won't get killed after all".

I'm SAYING that victory looks assured for the town. No matter who mafia kills tonight, it will help because of the current environment.



Finally caught up. Read the entire day 2 again.

Prof is being erratic, like I remember him with his theories and whatnot. He suspects Heph, and Heph counter votes on him. That just looks bad. I still maintain that prof is likely to be town. 

Anyway, this day has been a huge mess, and we should try our best to keep this organized. We should look at the lynch options we have and go with the safest bet.

Heph...Prof makes a valid point about the relation between wildvine and heph... Day 2, from Heph has been nothing but weird to me. He's been striving to make a connection with Stefl, but people seem to assume that Heph knew that Stefl had gone to ToS from the very beginning. To me, there doesn't seem to be anything that indicates that was the case. 

Either way, if Heph is saying the truth, in lynching him, we'd be losing a power role unlike the case where if we lynch vetteman, and he too was telling the truth, we'd be losing a townie. So if you have suspicions on both of them, and can't decide (kinda like me, but I made my decision early on) I'd say going with Vette would be the right thing to do.

Even though I've suspected FF, I've been keeping away from him because I feel that FF might be a very important pro-town role trying to lay low. So lynching him might be a bad idea too. I'd still like for him to answer my question though. FF, are you the role blocker ?

On the subject of Heph, we should look at it day 3 when all the dust from today settles (if he is alive by then).