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Forums - General Discussion - VGC Mafia Round 29 -Grand Theft Auto 4 edition!

I'm back from my train trip ! Our team won 33-25 !

I'll be going to sleep now...I'll let you guys know my thoughts tomorrow.



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Hephaestos said:

err if the lovers are both scum, they sure as hell ain't lovers, that'd be a pretty big hindrance to the scum team ^^


wasn't it you who proposed that all the gay characters are scum, referencing ABC's humor?

What is going on with you Heph? Every time I read a post like this, I think you're playing me.



Hephaestos said:

oh not night yet.

 

I have a theory that I want to explain before the night.

Since the lover's names do not "fit" with GTA cannon, I barely played the game but I checked the Gay tony and linkz guy when  I thought first that zarx was tony and when linkz claimed... they both have a lover other than the one here... it didn't seem to me that the gay scene in GTA was much bigger than these characters.

Here is the theory:

The mafia is all the gay men of GTA.

that fits very well with an ABC game in my mind ^^

It would mean however that ST took a great risk to save linkz and knew the names of other mafia. There is no tangible evidence of this though...

But if a gay man flips mafia -> these two tricked us.

(though they are liklely dead tonight, I still wanted this theory written down before we go to sleep....)

(on that FoS TruckS... is there any other gaymers playing? =D)

quoted for reference.

Sure, dmitri's flip takes away from the idea, but why not just the lovers?

Additionally, Heph's been very reluctant to lynch a lover today. I understand his reasoning...but..



Votal coming right up.



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Baalzamon said:
Votes to Lynch: Player Name: L-4 L-3 L-2
L-2 Vette Heph GodofWar Prof
L-4 Final-Fan
SilverTiger - -
L-4 Heph Final-Fan - -

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With 8 voters, 5 votes will result in a lynch

L-5; Stefl: Heph, (Heph), Prof, (Prof)

L-5; GodofWar: Heph, (Heph), Prof, (Prof)

L-4; Heph: Final-Fan, (Final-Fan), Final-Fan

L-4; Final-Fan: Heph, (Heph), SilverTiger

L-2; Vette: Prof, Heph, (Prof), GodofWar, Prof

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Voting History:

Heph: Stefl->Unvote->GodofWar->Unvote->Final-Fan->Unvote->Vette

Final-Fan: Heph->Unvote->Heph

Prof: Stefl->Unvote->Vette->Unvote->GodofWar->Unvote->Vette

GodofWar: Vette

SilverTiger: Final-Fan

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Any corrections would be greatly appreciated.





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Heph vote stefl
Heph unvote
Heph vote GoW
FF vote Heph
FF unvote Heph
Prof vote Stefl
Prof unvote
Heph unvote
Heph vote FF
Prof vote Vette
Heph unvote
Heph vote Vette
Prof unvote
Prof vote GoW
GoW vote Vette
ST vote FF
FF vote Heph
Prof unvote
Prof vote Vette



theprof00 said:

unvote

I've gone through all gow's posts and he comes off as town about as much as ToS did, to me.

Right now, I believe there are a couple possibilities.

FF&Vette

See another thing about the vette being the blocker thing was that I suspected that when he said that the alignment was in his role, it made me think that he had mafia alignment in his role. Like Town Roleblocker. There aren't many other roles that have the word TOWN in them. There's Townie, Town Roleblocker,,,aaand that's really it. It's specifically there for roles that can be on either team, so the designation makes sense. On the opposite side of the spectrum, there's mafia cop, mafia roleblocker.. anyhoo I digress.

(After looking at the OP, everyone's role has Town in it, or Pro-town.

FF seems really cautious this game, and seems to have defended wildvine's "vette defense". He also put in the hammer on the vote modkill, and said they should give wild another chance.

Heph&Steph

I can't help but remember that there were two shady cops as characters in gta4 who were bad guys. But I could be mistaken as I've looked through character lists and not found them. The ones I'm thinking of are in the top right of the OP picture, then 3 squares down on the staircase.
Eitherway, there is francis mcreary who's a cheif that has dirt on niko and makes niko go on missions for him. But he's a good guy. Either way, I don't like these two at all.

Linkz and Heph
Good possibility. LInkz even hinted that despite being a lover, he might have another power. And then when I commented on Linkz being bizarre, Heph then called me bizarre. When I asked Heph if my objection was correct, he agreed with me. So why throw that little dig at me if you agree? Additionally, I've disagreed with almost everything these two have had to say.

Linkz & ST
They each claim that the other is town. Recently, ST said that linkz was 95% town. I can't imagine where he plucked that number from and for what reason. It doesn't say that the other is town, which they've admitted but somehow are very confident in the other.
If it is the case that Linkz and ST are scum, it is very likely that there is another mafia floating around. 4 mafia, 2 of them being sibling-like, makes a lot of sense to me.

 

Going into tonight, we will be one short. IMO, these 5 are the ones we need to watch out for. 2 or them are linked, the other 3, independent.
Heph claims to be some kind of investigational role.
Linkz and ST are lovers, though may have other roles.
Vette claims to be vanilla
FF hasn't claimed.

It is also my opinion that none of these players will be killed tonight. I think it will probably be me or gow, because scum wouldn't want to narrow the pool of suspects for us.
Vette and FF are partially linked because of Wildvine. So they are a good opportunity, at least one of them.
Tomorrow we have a second lynch opportunity, and we really need to get something tonight.

 

QUESTION @ABC: If a lover dies during the day, does the other die at night? Or the following day?

Depending on what ABC answers, I'd say the best course of action would be to lynch a lover and then either FF or vette. I say this because if the other lover dies tonight, then we will know if there are three mafia (2 as lovers), or not. If one shows up as town, then we can almost guarantee that there are another 2 mafia, and would point to vette and FF. If both show up as mafia, that would indicate only one other potential scum, which I would think is Heph.

However, if there are 3 scum, then that means game is over tonight if we mislynch. Man, I gotta rule that out.

Yaknow what, I'm going with FF or Vette.

Most likely Vette as Wildvine defended him.

Sorry Vette, as mafia you usually do post more, and this game you've been VERY active, much more than you usually are. If you're town, then that points to Heph and Linkz as the mafia. I gotta have this information, and if you're vanilla, it's the safest bet to go with you.

Vote vetteman94

Wow,  so a scum defending me makes me scum.   Thats all you got?  Im not going to defend myself anymore from the same stupid thing.  I can only say the same thing so many times



Vetteman94 said:

Wow,  so a scum defending me makes me scum.   Thats all you got?  Im not going to defend myself anymore from the same stupid thing.  I can only say the same thing so many times

well then, what do you think of FF?



theprof00 said:
Vetteman94 said:

Wow,  so a scum defending me makes me scum.   Thats all you got?  Im not going to defend myself anymore from the same stupid thing.  I can only say the same thing so many times

well then, what do you think of FF?


Nothing,  other than not posting as much as I remember him to post.  

My suspects are Heph, and Silver-Tiger/Linkz



Vetteman94 said:
theprof00 said:
Vetteman94 said:

Wow,  so a scum defending me makes me scum.   Thats all you got?  Im not going to defend myself anymore from the same stupid thing.  I can only say the same thing so many times

well then, what do you think of FF?


Nothing,  other than not posting as much as I remember him to post.  

My suspects are Heph, and Silver-Tiger/Linkz

how do you explain wild's perma-vote on linkz?