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lmao heph, that'd be plain dirty. Exploits like that would make the game boring. I have no problems with doing it, but would it really count as a roleclaim if I acknowledge I was lying straight after ?



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GodOfWar_3ever said:

This post, especially the bits that talked about you not trusting me because I think you're pro-town, made me smile :D

I'm not the roleblocker. I will nameclaim if the need arises, and you decide to look into the character, you'll definitely know what my role is. Atleast part of it, anyway. 

Out of the people I've not decided to even look at lynching today, Heph is definitely the most suspicious to me too. 

And why do you say I have no fear of being nightkilled ? Should I be ? If you die in mafia, you die. Theres no need to hide behind something, that will obviously give away to the mafia that you have a power role and cause the town to be suspicious of you. So having a carefree attitude towards yourself and being involved is bad now ?

What will it take for you to understand that I'm not the roleblocker ? 

After some time thinking about it, it doesn't matter if we get the roleblocker or not. Typically, mafia cannot both use an ability and kill at the same time. Therefore, should there be only 2 mafia left, killing one of the two will force a decision to either block or kill. (there is still the possibility that he can do both to the same player. But I sincerely doubt he can visit two different players) So, specifically getting the roleblocker isn't that important. It's good to know that he's scum though.



GodOfWar_3ever said:

lmao heph, that'd be plain dirty. Exploits like that would make the game boring. I have no problems with doing it, but would it really count as a roleclaim if I acknowledge I was lying straight after ?

why would you acknowledge that you were lying?

anyway, I'm pretty sure it's against the rules. Last game it was disallowed by Hatmoza. Odd coincidence, I was the one who suggested the idea of claiming a role in order to prove that you're not the role, and I was mafia defending myself against claims that I was the poisoner.



theprof00 said:

 Additionally on day 2 when you pointed out voting patterns from the Linkz train, you specfically went after the "second wave", while wild was in the first wave, no "doubt it could've been a "mistake", or you could've been trying to use wild's flip to give substance to your vote.

Later, you will say that you will put your vote on the person that rubs you the worst, and unvote, voting vette. Then why did you vote GoW in the first place?

Then yesterday, blabla.

Also yesterday, when I asked Linkz if he noticed anyone being surprised at the wonk gambit, [Heph] made it a point to say he wasn't surprised.

 

You also have been on every easy lynch candidate, ie; things that anyone could find problems with. This reminds me of dsis "lie as townie" question, leading to a strong train against yourself. Scum do tend to work on "defendable cases", as in post-flip "how was I supposed to know he was X. He did a terrible job, he played very badly; perhaps it's better still that he's gone since he's been a distraction and might've been used as cover".


1) If I recall, I quoted one of the 10 zillion votals you had baal do for that and well it was wrong :p.

2) Both wonk and Gow rub me the wrong way, cause they always try to lynch me :p, really no other reason (besides the stats), I've yet to have a real read on GoW.

3) Well anyone voting for you solely on the 4th voter point while linkz was in the line of fire would have gotten my attention... lookie who joined the discution on that ^^

4) yep, I wasn't "surprised", but moreover, I was weary of where you were trying to get with that and since I was one of the few present for that wonk action, I acted to distance myself from any scheme you might have had.

5) I Initiated Linkz and Vette votes day one.... what else? Oh you mean today where we have a shortlist? yeah i'm shooting rather blind here ^^

I'll also point out that I wasn't on Zarks's lynch... the one I would say was initiated by Stefl's insistance on him (yes you're not the one that voted him first or whatever the discution was earlier Day 2). In fact I noted that Zarx tried to name claim in his first posts, something that reminded me of his DBZ game and gave me a town feeling on him, hence why I didn't participate at all in that "easy" lynch.



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theprof00 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

lmao heph, that'd be plain dirty. Exploits like that would make the game boring. I have no problems with doing it, but would it really count as a roleclaim if I acknowledge I was lying straight after ?

why would you acknowledge that you were lying?

anyway, I'm pretty sure it's against the rules. Last game it was disallowed by Hatmoza. Odd coincidence, I was the one who suggested the idea of claiming a role in order to prove that you're not the role, and I was mafia defending myself against claims that I was the poisoner.

When the game started I asked him if I could claim SK day one to prove I wasn't it :p (he said no to that too).



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actually a better rule would be: Mafia doesn't get randomed their ability for roleclaiming. They have no interest in doing so in the first place, only townies do.



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Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:

4) A) see 3, it's no mistake. B) evidence without context means nothing, to me all the evidence I had pointed he was scum C) Thinking I was outing a scum. The only "mistake" I accept is B as C derives directly from B. I'm still sorry for C though.

4. Based on what evidence? What was pointing you towards scum for him?

4) Day one, nothing, hence why I targeted him. Day 2, my result, but that was a mistake in interpretation.

Let me clarify, you recently said that you targeted him because you thought he was scum. Here you say you had no evidence. Yet, you had plenty of other suspects day one, including Vette. Why go after stefl when you had no evidence, completely ignoring the people that you had been very vocal about during day 1?



theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:

4) A) see 3, it's no mistake. B) evidence without context means nothing, to me all the evidence I had pointed he was scum C) Thinking I was outing a scum. The only "mistake" I accept is B as C derives directly from B. I'm still sorry for C though.

4. Based on what evidence? What was pointing you towards scum for him?

4) Day one, nothing, hence why I targeted him. Day 2, my result, but that was a mistake in interpretation.

Let me clarify, you recently said that you targeted him because you thought he was scum. Here you say you had no evidence. Yet, you had plenty of other suspects day one, including Vette. Why go after stefl when you had no evidence, completely ignoring the people that you had been very vocal about during day 1?

haha, can't answer that clearly without roleclaiming :p

I'll just say suspicion draws attention, my other 2 targets were suspected by others too.



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Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:
theprof00 said:
Hephaestos said:

4) A) see 3, it's no mistake. B) evidence without context means nothing, to me all the evidence I had pointed he was scum C) Thinking I was outing a scum. The only "mistake" I accept is B as C derives directly from B. I'm still sorry for C though.

4. Based on what evidence? What was pointing you towards scum for him?

4) Day one, nothing, hence why I targeted him. Day 2, my result, but that was a mistake in interpretation.

Let me clarify, you recently said that you targeted him because you thought he was scum. Here you say you had no evidence. Yet, you had plenty of other suspects day one, including Vette. Why go after stefl when you had no evidence, completely ignoring the people that you had been very vocal about during day 1?

haha, can't answer that clearly without roleclaiming :p

I'll just say suspicion draws attention, my other 2 targets were suspected by others too.

of course.



you do realize that the only other person to vote for stefl on day 1 was silver tiger, correct?