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Vetteman94 said:

What is logical about lynching me today?   Where is your evidence that I am the RoleBlocker?   I dare any one of you people to find evidence to support these BS theories.  I have already roleclaimed, what more do you want.  

Why isnt anyone looking at the Lovers?  Why isnt one dead from a Mafia kill and the other dying tomorrow?  Maybe because one of them is Mafia.  And losing a second so quickly would hurt their chances too much.  

I believe prof when he says he was roleblocked, and with pretty much most of the town having hinted at roles, with stefl and heph connecting each other, the lovers backing each other's claims, the tree stump, it only leaves you, me, prof and final fan.

I'm not saying the people connected to each other are pro-town...that remains to be seen, maybe we'll investigate into the whole lovers thing more tomorrow as linkz made some very valid points on why they'd still be alive. I believe catching this roleblocker is of the town's best interest, and I think you might be him, since its pretty much a choice between final fan and you. Also, the general consensus here is that the role blocker is anti-town, if all the roles which have come forward are true, it'd be unbalanced for the town's side having the favor.



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GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:

What is logical about lynching me today?   Where is your evidence that I am the RoleBlocker?   I dare any one of you people to find evidence to support these BS theories.  I have already roleclaimed, what more do you want.  

Why isnt anyone looking at the Lovers?  Why isnt one dead from a Mafia kill and the other dying tomorrow?  Maybe because one of them is Mafia.  And losing a second so quickly would hurt their chances too much.  

I believe prof when he says he was roleblocked, and with pretty much most of the town having hinted at roles, with stefl and heph connecting each other, the lovers backing each other's claims, the tree stump, it only leaves you, me, prof and final fan.

I'm not saying the people connected to each other are pro-town...that remains to be seen, maybe we'll investigate into the whole lovers thing more tomorrow as linkz made some very valid points on why they'd still be alive. I believe catching this roleblocker is of the town's best interest, and I think you might be him, since its pretty much a choice between final fan and you. Also, the general consensus here is that the role blocker is anti-town, if all the roles which have come forward are true, it'd be unbalanced for the town's side having the favor.

If all the roles that have come forward are true,  then I wouldnt be a person of interest at all.



Just FYI, it's pretty common for me to not reply to the thread while I am at work and asleep.  In this particular case, I didn't check the thread in between work and sleep yesterday. 

I am a pro town player



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Vetteman94 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:

What is logical about lynching me today?   Where is your evidence that I am the RoleBlocker?   I dare any one of you people to find evidence to support these BS theories.  I have already roleclaimed, what more do you want.  

Why isnt anyone looking at the Lovers?  Why isnt one dead from a Mafia kill and the other dying tomorrow?  Maybe because one of them is Mafia.  And losing a second so quickly would hurt their chances too much.  

I believe prof when he says he was roleblocked, and with pretty much most of the town having hinted at roles, with stefl and heph connecting each other, the lovers backing each other's claims, the tree stump, it only leaves you, me, prof and final fan.

I'm not saying the people connected to each other are pro-town...that remains to be seen, maybe we'll investigate into the whole lovers thing more tomorrow as linkz made some very valid points on why they'd still be alive. I believe catching this roleblocker is of the town's best interest, and I think you might be him, since its pretty much a choice between final fan and you. Also, the general consensus here is that the role blocker is anti-town, if all the roles which have come forward are true, it'd be unbalanced for the town's side having the favor.

If all the roles that have come forward are true,  then I wouldnt be a person of interest at all.

True, but you don't have a connection with someone else, now do you ? everyone else does ? wonk was mod confirmed, linkz/s-t are linked as are stefl/heph (though heph might be lying and the treacherous lover thing is possible) and I don't see why prof would make up random BS about a roleblocker. 



FoS Heph for saying he wasn't the role cop, then basically claiming role cop, and also the fact that role cops are usually scum roles. 

I was going to FoS theprof for claiming he's (almost) vanilla townie yet somehow gets notified of being RBed, but there's not really any reason for scum to lie about it IMO -- or to tell the truth if they got RBed. 

Not sure whether I'd rather vote Heph or Vette. 



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Final-Fan said:

Just FYI, it's pretty common for me to not reply to the thread while I am at work and asleep.  In this particular case, I didn't check the thread in between work and sleep yesterday. 

I am a pro town player

Are you the role blocker ?



GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:

What is logical about lynching me today?   Where is your evidence that I am the RoleBlocker?   I dare any one of you people to find evidence to support these BS theories.  I have already roleclaimed, what more do you want.  

Why isnt anyone looking at the Lovers?  Why isnt one dead from a Mafia kill and the other dying tomorrow?  Maybe because one of them is Mafia.  And losing a second so quickly would hurt their chances too much.  

I believe prof when he says he was roleblocked, and with pretty much most of the town having hinted at roles, with stefl and heph connecting each other, the lovers backing each other's claims, the tree stump, it only leaves you, me, prof and final fan.

I'm not saying the people connected to each other are pro-town...that remains to be seen, maybe we'll investigate into the whole lovers thing more tomorrow as linkz made some very valid points on why they'd still be alive. I believe catching this roleblocker is of the town's best interest, and I think you might be him, since its pretty much a choice between final fan and you. Also, the general consensus here is that the role blocker is anti-town, if all the roles which have come forward are true, it'd be unbalanced for the town's side having the favor.

If all the roles that have come forward are true,  then I wouldnt be a person of interest at all.

True, but you don't have a connection with someone else, now do you ? everyone else does ? wonk was mod confirmed, linkz/s-t are linked as are stefl/heph (though heph might be lying and the treacherous lover thing is possible) and I don't see why prof would make up random BS about a roleblocker. 

What is the link between Heph and Stefl?  Other than the PM that made Heph think he knew his role,  whether he is right remains to be seen.  And why does someone become less of a suspect because they are linked with someone else?

And as for prof,  he made up that he knew I was the Roleblocker,  sure he retracked that statement, but its not beyond him to make that up.  

And if I was the roleblocker,  I would be linked to theprof,  so like everyone else that has a link that makes me innocent right?



Vetteman94 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:

What is logical about lynching me today?   Where is your evidence that I am the RoleBlocker?   I dare any one of you people to find evidence to support these BS theories.  I have already roleclaimed, what more do you want.  

Why isnt anyone looking at the Lovers?  Why isnt one dead from a Mafia kill and the other dying tomorrow?  Maybe because one of them is Mafia.  And losing a second so quickly would hurt their chances too much.  

I believe prof when he says he was roleblocked, and with pretty much most of the town having hinted at roles, with stefl and heph connecting each other, the lovers backing each other's claims, the tree stump, it only leaves you, me, prof and final fan.

I'm not saying the people connected to each other are pro-town...that remains to be seen, maybe we'll investigate into the whole lovers thing more tomorrow as linkz made some very valid points on why they'd still be alive. I believe catching this roleblocker is of the town's best interest, and I think you might be him, since its pretty much a choice between final fan and you. Also, the general consensus here is that the role blocker is anti-town, if all the roles which have come forward are true, it'd be unbalanced for the town's side having the favor.

If all the roles that have come forward are true,  then I wouldnt be a person of interest at all.

True, but you don't have a connection with someone else, now do you ? everyone else does ? wonk was mod confirmed, linkz/s-t are linked as are stefl/heph (though heph might be lying and the treacherous lover thing is possible) and I don't see why prof would make up random BS about a roleblocker. 

What is the link between Heph and Stefl?  Other than the PM that made Heph think he knew his role,  whether he is right remains to be seen.  And why does someone become less of a suspect because they are linked with someone else?

And as for prof,  he made up that he knew I was the Roleblocker,  sure he retracked that statement, but its not beyond him to make that up.  

And if I was the roleblocker,  I would be linked to theprof,  so like everyone else that has a link that makes me innocent right?

You misunderstood me.

1. Linkz and Silver-Tiger, each other's claims back them up. Obviously, since they're lovers. Sure, one of them being scum is a possibility, but we'd have to wait it out I guess, maybe have the cop investigate them ?

2. I highly doubt both Stefl and Heph is lying about their roles, because it would be fucking stupid if they can't provide results after a fake claim. If one of them is indeed lying, it'd be Heph. But since he investigated Stefl, and supposedly got a flavoured result PM, it links them. Heph can vouch for Stefl, whom I don't think is lying.

3. You may be the roleblocker, and you may have blocked prof. But that doesn't give you the type of link I'm talking about here. No one here can confirm that you are the roleblocker based on substantial evidence.

I guess you could say the same thing about Heph though, but as he comes forward to vouch for stefl, it looks good. He might be trying to fool us with an evil master plan, but I'm seeing what happens if we do trust him right now.

As I said before, I think its in the best interest of the town to catch the roleblocker, and I believe prof when he says there is one. Prof was sure you were the roleblocker at one stage based on the info he had, and due to his memory of the events on day 1.



Vetteman94 said:

What is logical about lynching me today?   Where is your evidence that I am the RoleBlocker?   I dare any one of you people to find evidence to support these BS theories.  I have already roleclaimed, what more do you want.  

Why isnt anyone looking at the Lovers?  Why isnt one dead from a Mafia kill and the other dying tomorrow?  Maybe because one of them is Mafia.  And losing a second so quickly would hurt their chances too much.  


It's simple, really. With all the attention we both got, did you seriously think scum targets one of us? The scums aren't stupid, it's highly likely that a tracker watched us, if the scum tried to kill us, he would be instantly outed.

Also I think scum are trying to convince the town of the treacherous lover thing, hoping town would mislynch us eventually.



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GodOfWar_3ever said:
Vetteman94 said:
GodOfWar_3ever said:

True, but you don't have a connection with someone else, now do you ? everyone else does ? wonk was mod confirmed, linkz/s-t are linked as are stefl/heph (though heph might be lying and the treacherous lover thing is possible) and I don't see why prof would make up random BS about a roleblocker. 

What is the link between Heph and Stefl?  Other than the PM that made Heph think he knew his role,  whether he is right remains to be seen.  And why does someone become less of a suspect because they are linked with someone else?

And as for prof,  he made up that he knew I was the Roleblocker,  sure he retracked that statement, but its not beyond him to make that up.  

And if I was the roleblocker,  I would be linked to theprof,  so like everyone else that has a link that makes me innocent right?

You misunderstood me.

1. Linkz and Silver-Tiger, each other's claims back them up. Obviously, since they're lovers. Sure, one of them being scum is a possibility, but we'd have to wait it out I guess, maybe have the cop investigate them ?

2. I highly doubt both Stefl and Heph is lying about their roles, because it would be fucking stupid if they can't provide results after a fake claim. If one of them is indeed lying, it'd be Heph. But since he investigated Stefl, and supposedly got a flavoured result PM, it links them. Heph can vouch for Stefl, whom I don't think is lying.

3. You may be the roleblocker, and you may have blocked prof. But that doesn't give you the type of link I'm talking about here. No one here can confirm that you are the roleblocker based on substantial evidence.

I guess you could say the same thing about Heph though, but as he comes forward to vouch for stefl, it looks good. He might be trying to fool us with an evil master plan, but I'm seeing what happens if we do trust him right now.

As I said before, I think its in the best interest of the town to catch the roleblocker, and I believe prof when he says there is one. Prof was sure you were the roleblocker at one stage based on the info he had, and due to his memory of the events on day 1.

1.  That could take 2 days waiting on ivestigations,  and that if he doesnt get killed and tkae his information with him.

2. Heph may be able to vouch for Stefl because he is scum and knows who is Pro-Town.  But it sounds like all you have there is gut feelings and no good evidence.

3. Im not the Roleblocker, so I couldnt block theprof. Yet you are willing to lynch me without such evidence, in fact 0 evidence.

Trusting anyone who isnt confirmed town is ridiculous,  and for that person to be Heph makes it even worse.

And as I said before,  making the Roleblocker a top priority is dangerous and narrow minded,  Scum should be what you are looking for,  as there is no gauruntee that the Roleblocker is scum.  And theprof may have been blocked by one,  but he had no info that I was one other than I thought there was a blocked kill the first night.  And his memory was wrong on alot of what he brought up, people have had to correct him on his memory of this game.  So how is that good evidence?