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theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Final-Fan said:

I support the "out Stefl" campaign. 


I could nameclaim since that doesn't get punished, and just so that you all know, no matter if Heph is wrong or right when he claims my role I will neither dismiss it nor will I say its correct.

I don't care about you claiming or not. From my point of view, if you are town, then roleclaiming is not in the interest of town. Therefore, I cannot really go after you for the events of today. However, you are not the only one involved in your role. Heph is as well. And being that you will not get punished, I want to see what he thinks.

I want to know if Heph knows your role. Do you yourself think that Heph knows your role, and to what degree of certainty would you say he does?


I am 95% certain that he figured out my role... the last 5% would fall to different roles that are very similar to mine (don't know off any - but I don't know - there could be)



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Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Final-Fan said:

I support the "out Stefl" campaign. 


I could nameclaim since that doesn't get punished, and just so that you all know, no matter if Heph is wrong or right when he claims my role I will neither dismiss it nor will I say its correct.

I don't care about you claiming or not. From my point of view, if you are town, then roleclaiming is not in the interest of town. Therefore, I cannot really go after you for the events of today. However, you are not the only one involved in your role. Heph is as well. And being that you will not get punished, I want to see what he thinks.

I want to know if Heph knows your role. Do you yourself think that Heph knows your role, and to what degree of certainty would you say he does?


I am 95% certain that he figured out my role... the last 5% would fall to different roles that are very similar to mine (don't know off any - but I don't know - there could be)

and what do you think Heph's role is?



theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Final-Fan said:

I support the "out Stefl" campaign. 


I could nameclaim since that doesn't get punished, and just so that you all know, no matter if Heph is wrong or right when he claims my role I will neither dismiss it nor will I say its correct.

I don't care about you claiming or not. From my point of view, if you are town, then roleclaiming is not in the interest of town. Therefore, I cannot really go after you for the events of today. However, you are not the only one involved in your role. Heph is as well. And being that you will not get punished, I want to see what he thinks.

I want to know if Heph knows your role. Do you yourself think that Heph knows your role, and to what degree of certainty would you say he does?


I am 95% certain that he figured out my role... the last 5% would fall to different roles that are very similar to mine (don't know off any - but I don't know - there could be)

and what do you think Heph's role is?

To be honest I cannot think of any roles that he really could have that would give him flavour other than hobo ^^,

and to be really honest - I don't know... but its sure its some role that made him know that I targeted ToS.



theprof00 said:

I love how it's just impossible for me to not understand, and instead am choosing to misunderstand.

I'm not arguing with you anymore. Since my vote boils your blood, here's my unvote:

unvote: stefl

Let me remind you of last game where Heph claimed to know Baal's role and completely and utterly failed at it. FYI

I'm sorry but last game, both FF and I had the right role figured out... it's baal himself who didn't understand his own role (he was indeed a psych... hence the no kill on the night with the rain)

and I'm not claiming for stefl until he asks for it ^^, I already outed 2 power roles i'm not gonna give all the details for free ^^

(been browsing the thread quickly, will come back later in more details)



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Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
theprof00 said:
Stefl1504 said:
Final-Fan said:

I support the "out Stefl" campaign. 


I could nameclaim since that doesn't get punished, and just so that you all know, no matter if Heph is wrong or right when he claims my role I will neither dismiss it nor will I say its correct.

I don't care about you claiming or not. From my point of view, if you are town, then roleclaiming is not in the interest of town. Therefore, I cannot really go after you for the events of today. However, you are not the only one involved in your role. Heph is as well. And being that you will not get punished, I want to see what he thinks.

I want to know if Heph knows your role. Do you yourself think that Heph knows your role, and to what degree of certainty would you say he does?


I am 95% certain that he figured out my role... the last 5% would fall to different roles that are very similar to mine (don't know off any - but I don't know - there could be)

and what do you think Heph's role is?

To be honest I cannot think of any roles that he really could have that would give him flavour other than hobo ^^,

and to be really honest - I don't know... but its sure its some role that made him know that I targeted ToS.

should I say what I think your role is?



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Hephaestos said:

should I say what I think your role is?


I won't say anything to that since I don't know if I say yes it would be like me claiming directly... but we could open votes^^ - anyway I will not decide for you - and I am not going to get angry if you do reveal it - and I am not going to confirm (nor decline) it if it is right, since that would be 100% me roleclaiming then.



Stefl1504 said:
Hephaestos said:

should I say what I think your role is?

I won't say anything to that since I don't know if I say yes it would be like me claiming directly... but we could open votes^^ - anyway I will not decide for you - and I am not going to get angry if you do reveal it - and I am not going to confirm (nor decline) it if it is right, since that would be 100% me roleclaiming then.

No, I am completely certain that you saying "go ahead and guess my role" is not considered equivalent to roleclaiming. 

Also I'm surprised at how confident you are Heph has figured out your role. 



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well then it's decided. Actually Stefl's role is only more powerfull if people know... though his fate depends on the protection he gets.

 

Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.

 

What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions... this prompted me to vote directly instead of inquiering. Stefl saying he knew at dawn made me tick to the questions he asked day one.

The 4 people he had as targets yesterday were Trucks, Proff and I guess the lovers.... his choice of Trucks was wise as the lovers were likely to die and Proff too (errr).

 

On that FoS FF, FoS Proff for wanting to know the role, now please let stefl ask you a question, and do answer truthfully ^^.



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Final-Fan said:
Stefl1504 said:
Hephaestos said:

should I say what I think your role is?

I won't say anything to that since I don't know if I say yes it would be like me claiming directly... but we could open votes^^ - anyway I will not decide for you - and I am not going to get angry if you do reveal it - and I am not going to confirm (nor decline) it if it is right, since that would be 100% me roleclaiming then.

No, I am completely certain that you saying "go ahead and guess my role" is not considered equivalent to roleclaiming. 

Also I'm surprised at how confident you are Heph has figured out your role. 

As far as I am concerned, I don't want my role revealed that badly... I wanted to give town free rule over the unveiling of my role, but since I am asked to decide for myself - lets keep it hidden for a while - I want to know if there are more people out there that want to know my role that badly...



Hephaestos said:

well then it's decided. Actually Stefl's role is only more powerfull if people know... though his fate depends on the protection he gets.

 

Lie to stefl and he'll know. He asked Trucks if he was a townie, Trucks answered and at Dawn, Stefl knew.

 

What did I missinterpret? I thought my flavor said that stefl thought trucks asked too many questions... this prompted me to vote directly instead of inquiering. Stefl saying he knew at dawn made me tick to the questions he asked day one.

The 4 people he had as targets yesterday were Trucks, Proff and I guess the lovers.... his choice of Trucks was wise as the lovers were likely to die and Proff too (errr).

 

On that FoS FF, FoS Proff for wanting to know the role, now please let stefl ask you a question, and do answer truthfully ^^.

Yay ninja'd^^