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SamuelRSmith said:

250gb? Who /really/ is going to go over it? And even if they do... it's only another $10 per 50gb. I actually think these prices/caps are more than fair. Why should 98% of users suffer while the other 2% are using 10 times the average?


Bandwidth is not a resource in short supply.  Those 98% of users would not be suffering if these charges weren't put into place.  The costs of improving our infrastructure are negligible compared to the associated gains made in peak bandwidth, so the prices we pay for internet speed should be DECREASING over time, not increasing alongside the implementation of caps.

Bandwidth costs are literally cheaper than ever.  You have Lithuanians getting 300 Mbps for only $35/USD a month, Google bringing GB/s speeds to Kansas City next year, the Japanese getting on average over 60 Mbps way back in 2007, meanwhile AT&T is charging us $50 for a mere 6 Mpbs DSL line, and they're now adding a 150gb cap on top of that.  It is absolute and utter bullshit, and it should not be defended.

Also, to all those worrying about corporations "getting away" with this, keep in mind that bandwidth caps directly conflict with the business models of companies like Apple, Microsoft, Sony, Amazon, and Netflix.  It won't be long before they get involved in this battle, or hell, they may even start up their own ISPs like Google.



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outlawauron said:
SamuelRSmith said:

250gb? Who /really/ is going to go over it? And even if they do... it's only another $10 per 50gb. I actually think these prices/caps are more than fair. Why should 98% of users suffer while the other 2% are using 10 times the average?

I will. So incredibly fast you have no idea.


Yeah, but you're a self-admitted dirty pirate.



Right now Comcast caps me at 250 GB I think but thats plenty of broadband right there.

So as long as the caps are very high I don't really care.



makingmusic476 said:
outlawauron said:
SamuelRSmith said:

250gb? Who /really/ is going to go over it? And even if they do... it's only another $10 per 50gb. I actually think these prices/caps are more than fair. Why should 98% of users suffer while the other 2% are using 10 times the average?

I will. So incredibly fast you have no idea.


Yeah, but you're a self-admitted dirty pirate.

Well, technically what I'm downloading isn't licensed in the US.

Usually.



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izaaz101 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:


i download (pirate) software to try, movies, anime, and demos of games. Plus MMORPGs and League of Legends.


How do you even see how much your using?

Some torrent programs show how much you've used since installation...you could record the number on the first of the month and then look at it at the end of the month, over the course of a year (although, this assumes that you solely use torrents to download).

I'm not even sure I have a torrent installer on my PC.

Don't pirate, so any torrenting I would of did would of soley been mods.

Really I just watch a ton of Netflix.  Wouldn't come close to the cap but just curious for academic purposes.



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Kasz216 said:
izaaz101 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:


i download (pirate) software to try, movies, anime, and demos of games. Plus MMORPGs and League of Legends.


How do you even see how much your using?

Some torrent programs show how much you've used since installation...you could record the number on the first of the month and then look at it at the end of the month, over the course of a year (although, this assumes that you solely use torrents to download).

I'm not even sure I have a torrent installer on my PC.

Don't pirate, so any torrenting I would of did would of soley been mods.

Really I just watch a ton of Netflix.  Wouldn't come close to the cap but just curious for academic purposes.

utorrent recorded the amount of data downloaded/uploaded for the past 31 days. You can check it at any time.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

Check out MyAnimeList and my Game Collection. Owner of the 5 millionth post.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune500/2011/performers/companies/profits/

AT&T ranked #2 for last year most profitable company at a near 20 billions profit?

Surely, they need to nickle and diming some more by capping bandwidth.



outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
izaaz101 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:


i download (pirate) software to try, movies, anime, and demos of games. Plus MMORPGs and League of Legends.


How do you even see how much your using?

Some torrent programs show how much you've used since installation...you could record the number on the first of the month and then look at it at the end of the month, over the course of a year (although, this assumes that you solely use torrents to download).

I'm not even sure I have a torrent installer on my PC.

Don't pirate, so any torrenting I would of did would of soley been mods.

Really I just watch a ton of Netflix.  Wouldn't come close to the cap but just curious for academic purposes.

utorrent recorded the amount of data downloaded/uploaded for the past 31 days. You can check it at any time.

Like, from utorrent or from your system as a whole?



Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
izaaz101 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:


i download (pirate) software to try, movies, anime, and demos of games. Plus MMORPGs and League of Legends.


How do you even see how much your using?

Some torrent programs show how much you've used since installation...you could record the number on the first of the month and then look at it at the end of the month, over the course of a year (although, this assumes that you solely use torrents to download).

I'm not even sure I have a torrent installer on my PC.

Don't pirate, so any torrenting I would of did would of soley been mods.

Really I just watch a ton of Netflix.  Wouldn't come close to the cap but just curious for academic purposes.

utorrent recorded the amount of data downloaded/uploaded for the past 31 days. You can check it at any time.

Like, from utorrent or from your system as a whole?

Only from utorrent.

I think everyone generally has a pretty standard amoutn of bandwidth used unless you're watching a ton of streamed content.



"We'll toss the dice however they fall,
And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
To dance with Jak o' the Shadows."

Check out MyAnimeList and my Game Collection. Owner of the 5 millionth post.

outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
outlawauron said:
Kasz216 said:
izaaz101 said:
Kasz216 said:
ssj12 said:


i download (pirate) software to try, movies, anime, and demos of games. Plus MMORPGs and League of Legends.


How do you even see how much your using?

Some torrent programs show how much you've used since installation...you could record the number on the first of the month and then look at it at the end of the month, over the course of a year (although, this assumes that you solely use torrents to download).

I'm not even sure I have a torrent installer on my PC.

Don't pirate, so any torrenting I would of did would of soley been mods.

Really I just watch a ton of Netflix.  Wouldn't come close to the cap but just curious for academic purposes.

utorrent recorded the amount of data downloaded/uploaded for the past 31 days. You can check it at any time.

Like, from utorrent or from your system as a whole?

Only from utorrent.

I think everyone generally has a pretty standard amoutn of bandwidth used unless you're watching a ton of streamed content.

I do tend to watch a decent amount.  More in the past.  Been watching Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood lately.  It amuses me how they kept everything the same except the story.  I't s got to confuse the crap out of people who don't see the title screen.