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dsister on 04 May 2011
thranx said:

But if that groups views differ from the main group are they really acting in anon's interest? Wouldn't it just be another group of "anonymous" hackers? I see the issue here. Maybe I just dont know enough about anon. I am not a hacker and not into that scene.


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kitler53 on 04 May 2011
Galaki said:
Apparently, the firm is claiming Anonymous were responsible for the attack, as a file named Anonymous was found on one of Sony’s servers with the words “We are Legion” attached to it.

Really? You can pin the blame with a text file? :)


Really?  You can santify them from blame just because one guy said it wasn't them?

Anon is loose nit group with no leader or structure.  just because the guy who did the youtube video didn't do the hack doesn't mean the guy who did the hack didn't do it because he supports and identifies himself as anon.  frankly there is no way to for even anon to know if anon did it at this point.

yes, the hacker could have left that file to frame anon.  but also yes, it could have been someone who believes they are anon.



Galaki on 04 May 2011
kitler53 said:
Galaki said:
Apparently, the firm is claiming Anonymous were responsible for the attack, as a file named Anonymous was found on one of Sony’s servers with the words “We are Legion” attached to it.

Really? You can pin the blame with a text file? :)


Really?  You can santify them from blame just because one guy said it wasn't them?

Anon is loose nit group with no leader or structure.  just because the guy who did the youtube video didn't do the hack doesn't mean the guy who did the hack didn't do it because in support of anon.  frankly there is no way to for even anon to know if anon did it at this point.

yes, the hacker could have left that file to frame anon.  but also yes, it could have been someone who believes they are anon.

I am not saying it can't be anon. I am just saying, that's a flimsy piece of evidence.



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Ail on 04 May 2011
Vetteman94 said:
Ail said:
thranx said:
LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
LivingMetal said:
thranx said:
M.U.G.E.N said:
Vetteman94 said:
Galaki said:
Apparently, the firm is claiming Anonymous were responsible for the attack, as a file named Anonymous was found on one of Sony’s servers with the words “We are Legion” attached to it.

Really? You can pin the blame with a text file? :)


Sure why not

yep and with those assholes recent history, evidence are 'against' them.

and I don't think they said they were responsible tho right? I think they just said a file was left by the hackers with that name.

honest to god if I see one more guy defending hackers I'm gonna lose it!

or not but yea you get the point

Not all hackers are evil. Perhaps if people would stop trying to piant every hacker as wrong/evil others would not have to defend hackers that are not doing anything wrong.


Perhaps some users here should stop bashing Sony at most every turn just because the PS3 is not their system of choice.  Therefore, others would not have to defend Sony that are not doing anything wrong.


I am not talking about defending Sony, that is fine. He was talking about hackers. Perhaps you guys would defend sony better by putting forth good arguments as to why they are right in this situation istead of the "la la la defence its all the hackers faults they are evil."


A lot of us have put out good arguments in favor of Sony.  But the Sony haters will always hate, never agree.  Do you agree?


No i dont agree. I have yet to see sony supporters reconcile the fact that sony did not keep their server software up to date which is a basic security task.

You know the only information we have concerning that is a guy reporting they were running an old version of Apache.

That version while not being up todate had no known security hole...

I thought that it did have a known vulnerability that was fixed on the later versions

This is the list of apache vulnerabilities :

http://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_22.html

Supposedly sony was running  2.2.15.

The only vulnerabilities listed related to DoS, not breaching the machine...



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Vetteman94 on 04 May 2011
Ail said:
Vetteman94 said:
Ail said:

You know the only information we have concerning that is a guy reporting they were running an old version of Apache.

That version while not being up todate had no known security hole...

I thought that it did have a known vulnerability that was fixed on the later versions

This is the list of apache vulnerabilities :

http://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_22.html

Supposedly sony was running  2.2.15.

The only vulnerabilities listed related to DoS, not breaching the machine...

Well thats what i get for believing what i read on the internet.



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kitler53 on 04 May 2011
Galaki said:
kitler53 said:
Galaki said:
Apparently, the firm is claiming Anonymous were responsible for the attack, as a file named Anonymous was found on one of Sony’s servers with the words “We are Legion” attached to it.

Really? You can pin the blame with a text file? :)


Really?  You can santify them from blame just because one guy said it wasn't them?

Anon is loose nit group with no leader or structure.  just because the guy who did the youtube video didn't do the hack doesn't mean the guy who did the hack didn't do it because in support of anon.  frankly there is no way to for even anon to know if anon did it at this point.

yes, the hacker could have left that file to frame anon.  but also yes, it could have been someone who believes they are anon.

I am not saying it can't be anon. I am just saying, that's a flimsy piece of evidence.

gotcha, well i can agree with that.  but we all know sony would love to have this pinned on anon so if it is the only evidence it will be the evidence they produce.

i wonder if any laws will be added/changed based off of this.  hackers that were upset about not being able to hack the ps3 just may find themselves a lot worse off becase of this if congress decides to change laws to protect big buisiness.



dsister on 04 May 2011
kitler53 said:

i wonder if any laws will be added/changed based off of this.  hackers that were upset about not being able to hack the ps3 just may find themselves a lot worse off becase of this if congress decides to change laws to protect big buisiness.

Why? 

To punish people that weren't involved, because some other hackers did something that was already illegal? 



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thranx on 04 May 2011
kitler53 said:
Galaki said:
kitler53 said:
Galaki said:
Apparently, the firm is claiming Anonymous were responsible for the attack, as a file named Anonymous was found on one of Sony’s servers with the words “We are Legion” attached to it.

Really? You can pin the blame with a text file? :)


Really?  You can santify them from blame just because one guy said it wasn't them?

Anon is loose nit group with no leader or structure.  just because the guy who did the youtube video didn't do the hack doesn't mean the guy who did the hack didn't do it because in support of anon.  frankly there is no way to for even anon to know if anon did it at this point.

yes, the hacker could have left that file to frame anon.  but also yes, it could have been someone who believes they are anon.

I am not saying it can't be anon. I am just saying, that's a flimsy piece of evidence.

gotcha, well i can agree with that.  but we all know sony would love to have this pinned on anon so if it is the only evidence it will be the evidence they produce.

i wonder if any laws will be added/changed based off of this.  hackers that were upset about not being able to hack the ps3 just may find themselves a lot worse off becase of this if congress decides to change laws to protect big buisiness.


Not sure but I thought I saw an article that Austriala was going to be changing some of its security laws. Congress should be concerned about protecting consumers not Corporations. But i would not be suprised if that is the route they go.



badgenome on 04 May 2011
dsister said:
thranx said:

But if that groups views differ from the main group are they really acting in anon's interest? Wouldn't it just be another group of "anonymous" hackers? I see the issue here. Maybe I just dont know enough about anon. I am not a hacker and not into that scene.


This is VGC. We like to generalize :-p 

That is a generalization!



dsister on 04 May 2011
Vetteman94 said:

Well thats what i get for believing what i read on the internet.

No, you were right originally. 

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/05/house-hearing-blasts-sonys-half-hearted-half-baked-hack-response.ars

That brings up what was wrong with their security 



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