This gun has ruined the game for me. It's supposed to help noobs, but what happens when someone like me uses it? That's what you call abusive, and I feel dirty every time I kill someone with that piece of shit. It's a guranteed kill if you're within a certain distance, and you don't even have to aim.

That's just wrong, and quite frankly I don't know how to fix/tweak it. Epic is notoriously stupid when it comes to balancing/removing things that break their games, even if their forums are being flooded by everyone stating the same thing. They just ban users, and constantly delete/close threads when they can't handle it.

Look at how long it took them to remove the horrible concussion grenades in Gears 2. They won't do something about it untill the player population is down to nothing.

Minus the complete lack of aiming,  thats what a shotgun is supposed to be like.  Its just getting that close is what should be more difficult

Honestly, for KOTH and CTL gametypes, I use the Gnasher, but for Team Deathmatch I prefer the DBS. In Team Deathmatch, lives are limited, and kills are more planned out, so using the DBS makes sense, but in KOTH and CTL, you live for way too long, and I find combat more ranged if anything.

I really like the inclusion of the DBS, I sucked with it at first, but now I find it crutial for Team Deathmatch.

Ratro lancer is cool too, I like how Epic made a noticable difference between the power and range of all three lancers. Chainsaw is still the best, but a retro lancer, and DBS combo is deadly.

I don't know, there are viable things Epic can do about this gun: Mendicate mentioned slightly nerfing the power and reducing the spread, I think you can limit it to a power weapon pick-up so that there are only 2 on the map at any time.  Hell I also think it should be hit or miss; either they are close enough to gib, or it misses completely, no more "one-shot down" from the SOS.

And if you know you are abusing it...let it go man!!  Don't let it control you!

I've played all Gears for upwards 100 hours each. I can't stand the sawed-off shotgun . . . I use it now, and almost never die with less then 4 kills unless I'm swarmed. Its not hard for me to see how this breaks a game. Also . . . wtf is up with the uber damage from machine guns now? I don't want to play Gears of Duty.

Yeah it is very powerfull but at the same time it takes a long time to reload and miss a few times and you are out of ammo soon. It is the first GEOW game where I enjoy the multiplayer..

Make it a power weapon or reducing its range sounds good to me. I think most "one-shot downs" are garbage anyway. I think there's way more problems with the retro lancer though, tbh. It's hip fire accuracy is ridiculous, not to mention that it gives whoever charges with it a lunge when they get near someone that really throws off anyone trying to counter with a gnasher.

You never ever counter a charging retro with a gnasher unless you are 100% sure you can down him before he gets to you. Either dive out of the way or pull out a lancer cause the majority of the time you will be impaled.

@Trios

Yea I like the idea of making it a power weapon but I think Epic wants to give us more options off initial spawn to make people with different play styles happy. They probably won't want to make it only a power weapon unless they can come up with a viable alternate as a starting weapon.

This weapon is the noob pwner, but thats about it. You lose to much using it over gnasher. I have had battles with the gnasher where i killed 2-3 players with 1 clip(even 4 sometimes), this just doesn't happen with the sawed off. This doesn't make it a bad weapon though, since if you are good at wall sliding you can easiliy get in kill 1 opponent and get away unharmed. But for big battles (read every battle in the modes that exist in the beta) it gets outclassed by  the gnasher. Might be interesting in Execution though.