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Kasz216 on 07 May 2011

I mean.  The easiest way to put it... and if your going to reply to anything, I'd like you to reply to this.

 

CGI Quality runs a private bank, and I run an MMORPG.

You put your name and adress with both of us.

We both have data breaches which release your name. 

He offers you $20, which lets say is what everybody pays more or less.

I offer you $10, and $5 (real cost to me, some bandwith) in "Game store points", and say I can't match what what CGI is offering because I had many more customers, and lost more of their information.

Are you really happy with that?  That I screwed up just the same, but compensated you less, because I screwed up bigger?


This is essentially your arguement.  Explain to me why it makes sense. (Not that i'm saying they're offering less.  I'm just saying what they're offering is about equal to what happens in such a situation.)

To me.  If two people commit the same crime or mistake.  They both pay the same compensation.  No matter who they are.

Or at the very least... if your going to have proportional compensation... the richer person pays more... and not less.



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dsister on 08 May 2011

haha, I'm loving all the comics coming from pennyarcade and vgcats and the like 



Sig thanks to Saber! :D 

Grimes on 08 May 2011

My god, they still don't know when service is going to be restored yet.

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-national/psn-update-full-online-system-reboot-could-take-until-end-of-may

With PSN now being down for close to three weeks, PS3 gamers have had to do without online multiplayer, trophy syncing, and many other elements that gamers have taken for granted over the course of the current generation. While Sony provided an update on the situation on Friday – full story and details here – the company remains mum on when PSN will go back online. Thanks to Sony’s continued commitment and advancements made to the service, a launch this week seems likely, but it has yet to be confirmed.

Today, a Sony spokesperson told the WallStreetJournal some new information regarding the situation and how long it may take before Sony gets the entire online service up and running once again. According to the Sony’s spokesman, a full system reboot would take until possibly the end of the month. However, they declined to comment on when the system can be expected to go live again, possibly indicating that the wait may be longer than many are expected or hoping.

To make amends for this issue, Sony is offering a ‘Welcome Back’ program which will offer a variety of payback methods to customers. Detailed by Sony of Europe, Sony will be offering free PS3 and PSP games to customers from a catalogue of pre-selected titles – find all the details and full story here.

As the hours and days go by, gamers are looking for more answers from Sony regarding this issue. As of now, it is known that Sony is testing the system and making sure it is up to par before they’ll launch the service again.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

M.U.G.E.N on 09 May 2011

A group of hackers that planned an attack against Sony's servers this weekend was unable to execute its plan.

CNET has learned that our publication of the group's plan may have caused Sony to secure the remaining servers this group claims it had access to, shutting off any avenues for another attack.

Wrote one of the members in the Internet Relay Chat channel the group uses, "Apparently Sony saw that article because the last server that I could access is offline now...its probbaly (sic) being patched like the other servers. There goes our window."

On Thursday we reported that a group of hackers believed to be involved in the intrusion on PlayStation Network was planning yet another attack on Sony, this time on an unspecified company Web site, with the goal of posting any information they could find somewhere online. The hackers said at the time that they were planning another wave of cyberattacks against Sony in retaliation for its handling of the PlayStation Network breach. An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers told CNET about the hackers' plans.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20061035-260.html



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arcane_chaos on 09 May 2011

who removed all the "sticky" threads?



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Kasz216 on 10 May 2011
CGI-Quality said:

http://bitmob.com/articles/detective-work-reveals-psn-servers-up-to-date

We've all been hearing over and over again for the last week that Sony was running an outdated version of Apache on their webservers. The implication of course being that this represents Sony's laissez-faire attitude towards the protection of customer information, making it easy for the hackers to gain entry to PSN. But the funny thing about this kind of "common knowledge" in the age of the internet is the way rumors have an unfortunate tendancy to be repeated as fact. Just a week ago it was common knowledge that Sony stored every PSN passwords in plain text. It was also common knowledge that SOE hadn't been compromised. Neither of those things proved true.
 
One member of the Beyond3D forum, deathindustrial, was curious about the outdated server software claim and did a very brief amount of research into the issue. Beyond3D's community has a unique combination of technically knowledgable user with a low rate of console fanboyism allowing for an honest discussion of things like the PSN data breach without the conversation devolving into another proxy battle in the great fanboy wars.
 
As it turns out, it is fairly simple to use Google's webcache to show what version of Apache the PSN servers were using back in March. According to a page request archived by Google on March 23, 2011, at that time Sony was running version 2.2.17 of the popular software. You can see from Apache's website 2.2.17 is the latest, stable version of the webserver available even today. This is a direct repudiation of the claims being made that Sony's webservers were out of date by as much as five years.
 
Poster deathindustrial also goes on to point out the folly in using "security expert" Dr Stafford's testimony before Congress as a source for the claims that the servers were outdated and that Sony knew about it. In the written statement which accompanied his testimony he clearly states:
I have no information about what protections they had in place, although some
news reports indicate that Sony was running software that was badly out of date, and had been warned about that risk.
In truth, he has no first hand knowledge of the state of Sony's servers or Sony's knowledge about possible exploits and that he was literally repeating claims he read in the media which stem from IRC logs that were being passed around back in February. He didn't even do the very basic detective work it has taken to completely repudiates the claims.
 
It's sad to say, but many are so eager to see Sony's eye blackened that they are willing to believe any rumor which puts the PlayStation in a negative light. We are in a backwards world where everything Sony says is assumed to be a lie or conspiracy and anonymous "IRC chat logs" of dubious origins have miraculously become the most trusted news source in the industry. Here we have a concrete example of why its important to actually verify your source before repeating something as fact.

Interesting.  Though i'm not sure i'm not sure i'd say a website apparently named after a Sony buzzword is fanboy free.  A bunch of partisians can have a reasonable conversation just as eaisly as normal people.... so long as they know each others credentials.

Also, do we know May 23rd was the day of the hack?  Or the day they discovered the hack.



Kasz216 on 10 May 2011
M.U.G.E.N said:

A group of hackers that planned an attack against Sony's servers this weekend was unable to execute its plan.

CNET has learned that our publication of the group's plan may have caused Sony to secure the remaining servers this group claims it had access to, shutting off any avenues for another attack.

Wrote one of the members in the Internet Relay Chat channel the group uses, "Apparently Sony saw that article because the last server that I could access is offline now...its probbaly (sic) being patched like the other servers. There goes our window."

On Thursday we reported that a group of hackers believed to be involved in the intrusion on PlayStation Network was planning yet another attack on Sony, this time on an unspecified company Web site, with the goal of posting any information they could find somewhere online. The hackers said at the time that they were planning another wave of cyberattacks against Sony in retaliation for its handling of the PlayStation Network breach. An observer of the Internet Relay Chat channel used by the hackers told CNET about the hackers' plans.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20061035-260.html


So they're saying Sony's servers weren't patched.  Perhaps it was a different point that wasn't properly updated.  Guess it shows they weren't top class hackers though...



Spankey on 10 May 2011

what this whole PSN thing is making me feel like right now...

well at least the first 1:30 or so lol

 

still no sign of PSN..how long is it?



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Kynes on 10 May 2011
Kasz216 said:
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Interesting.  Though i'm not sure i'm not sure i'd say a website apparently named after a Sony buzzword is fanboy free.  A bunch of partisians can have a reasonable conversation just as eaisly as normal people.... so long as they know each others credentials.

Also, do we know May 23rd was the day of the hack?  Or the day they discovered the hack.


If you're talking about Beyond3D, their name has nothing to do with Sony, they're graphic cards enthusiasts, so that's why they have that name. In their forums you can find several ATI and nVidia people.



Kasz216 on 10 May 2011
Kynes said:
Kasz216 said:
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Interesting.  Though i'm not sure i'm not sure i'd say a website apparently named after a Sony buzzword is fanboy free.  A bunch of partisians can have a reasonable conversation just as eaisly as normal people.... so long as they know each others credentials.

Also, do we know May 23rd was the day of the hack?  Or the day they discovered the hack.


If you're talking about Beyond3D, their name has nothing to do with Sony, they're graphic cards enthusiasts, so that's why they have that name. In their forums you can find several ATI and nVidia people.

nVidia people.... but Nvidia is awwwful.