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*~Onna76~* on 26 December 2007
routsounmanman said:
dabaus513 said:
Who cares? Are these not the same people that video taped the decapitation of a jewish person simply because he was jewish? Are these not the people that, by law, kill gay people and for the most part deny women alot of rights? Are these not the same people that attacked us on sept 11?

Not all of them! Suspect =/= terrorist for god's sake!

And in my book, the twin towers where brought down by the US government itself. 


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BenKenobi88 on 26 December 2007

lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
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Avinash_Tyagi on 26 December 2007
BenKenobi88 said:
lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
Tin foil hats for everyone!

There is some evidence that casts doubt on the government, especially at the Pentagon 



 

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Final-Fan on 26 December 2007
Avinash_Tyagi said:
BenKenobi88 said:
lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
Tin foil hats for everyone!

There is some evidence that casts doubt on the government, especially at the Pentagon


There really isn't, other than the fact that the exact chain of events is not completely known down to the nanosecond.  This is worse than the moon-landing deniers people. 

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Avinash_Tyagi on 26 December 2007
Final-Fan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
BenKenobi88 said:
lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
Tin foil hats for everyone!

There is some evidence that casts doubt on the government, especially at the Pentagon


There really isn't, other than the fact that the exact chain of events is not completely known down to the nanosecond.  This is worse than the moon-landing deniers people. 

 Well actually there is the whole lack of sufficient debris, and the damage didn't appear to be the result of a 747, etc.

 

I'm not saying that it was or wasn't the government, i'm just saying that there is evidence to cast some doubt 



 

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Final-Fan on 26 December 2007
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Final-Fan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
BenKenobi88 said:
lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
Tin foil hats for everyone!

There is some evidence that casts doubt on the government, especially at the Pentagon


There really isn't, other than the fact that the exact chain of events is not completely known down to the nanosecond. This is worse than the moon-landing deniers people.

Well actually there is the whole lack of sufficient debris, and the damage didn't appear to be the result of a 747, etc.

I'm not saying that it was or wasn't the government, i'm just saying that there is evidence to cast some doubt


Who says the debris was insufficient, and did they account for some of it being scattered and destroyed, and some of it being lost in the general rubble, and the fact that planes aren't exactly built like tanks in the first place?

And who says the damage "doesn't look like" a plane smacking into a building?  And how expert are they on the subject? 

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Mark2008 on 26 December 2007

I don't believe the U.S. Government directly contributed to 9/11... that argument is specious, but it could certainly be said, that the U.S. government was propping up terrorist regimes, because at the time, the Muslims fight with the Soviets seemed like a good idea to encourage. Then the soviet union fell, and those groups, while still medlling with Russia... the more obvious target became the remaining superpower: the United States.

We certainly supplied many of the weapons these groups used to maintain control in Afghanastan, etc. We were so mad at Iran, we helped Iraq.

Actually it was Israel who had the better grasp on the situation warning Washington that Iraq, while a onetime enemy of Iran, was no friend of ours...but we didn't listen.

All these mistakes in foreign policy...aren't the real issue though.

The real issue, is whether when we talk about a country that detains prisoners without trial, ignores human rights, engages in torture, cares nothing for the rights of anyone....man, woman, child....do we want, that the country we are discussing, is the United States....not Iraq, Iran, etc.

I'm sickened by those who think they are being 'pragmatic' in allowing these sort of things. Yes, in a strict sense, if the United States goes down the path of brutal dictatorship...history has proven that brutal regimes tend to hang on to power....if all you care about is flag waving, then maybe this does seem like a good idea.

But if you are a U.S. citizen, that wants a strong United States, because you believe the United States stands for something important....then you have to be really concerned when it is not standing for any particular principles other than raw power.

I want a strong U.S....only if the U.S. is a U.S. I can be proud of...the U.S. of George Bush, is a sick U.S. that is very strange to me....

I hope this practice of torturing U.S. citizens...and nevermind if the example of this particular article is only a resident, not a citizen, all these rules apply to and have happened against U.S. citizens as well....its ashame, but the rule of law we are taught about in schools doesn't exist...from the federal level, all the way to the family court system, people are tried without attorneys, convicted without evidence.

Just ask anyone recently divorced, if any trial was held before 'emergency support' orders were issued, or 'restraining orders' required any evidence, or the accused to even be present...THEY DO NOT.

It's all linked to a society that cares more about power than freedom...I'd like to see that trend completely reversed, and to have a government that cares about the details.



Avinash_Tyagi on 26 December 2007
Final-Fan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Final-Fan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
BenKenobi88 said:
lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
Tin foil hats for everyone!

There is some evidence that casts doubt on the government, especially at the Pentagon


There really isn't, other than the fact that the exact chain of events is not completely known down to the nanosecond. This is worse than the moon-landing deniers people.

Well actually there is the whole lack of sufficient debris, and the damage didn't appear to be the result of a 747, etc.

I'm not saying that it was or wasn't the government, i'm just saying that there is evidence to cast some doubt


Who says the debris was insufficient, and did they account for some of it being scattered and destroyed, and some of it being lost in the general rubble, and the fact that planes aren't exactly built like tanks in the first place?

And who says the damage "doesn't look like" a plane smacking into a building?  And how expert are they on the subject? 

 What's interesting is while they (examiners at the scene) say that much of the plane was destroyed, they also say that body parts and clothing were found intact, seems a little suspicious that the plane would be destroyed, while flesh and bone and cloth wouldn't, seeing as how flesh and bone and cloth are not as durable as metal.  

 As for those that question the government's statements well you can find many of them easy enough, just google or search the bookstores, i'll leave it to you to decide whether or not you agree with their views or credentials (theres quite a lot of them that naming all of them would be time consuming to say the least).  



 

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Final-Fan on 26 December 2007
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Final-Fan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
Final-Fan said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
BenKenobi88 said:
lawl at foreigners thinking the US government had something to do with 9/11.
Tin foil hats for everyone!

There is some evidence that casts doubt on the government, especially at the Pentagon


There really isn't, other than the fact that the exact chain of events is not completely known down to the nanosecond. This is worse than the moon-landing deniers people.

Well actually there is the whole lack of sufficient debris, and the damage didn't appear to be the result of a 747, etc.

I'm not saying that it was or wasn't the government, i'm just saying that there is evidence to cast some doubt


Who says the debris was insufficient, and did they account for some of it being scattered and destroyed, and some of it being lost in the general rubble, and the fact that planes aren't exactly built like tanks in the first place?

And who says the damage "doesn't look like" a plane smacking into a building? And how expert are they on the subject?

What's interesting is while they (examiners at the scene) say that much of the plane was destroyed, they also say that body parts and clothing were found intact, seems a little suspicious that the plane would be destroyed, while flesh and bone and cloth wouldn't, seeing as how flesh and bone and cloth are not as durable as metal.

As for those that question the government's statements well you can find many of them easy enough, just google or search the bookstores, i'll leave it to you to decide whether or not you agree with their views or credentials (theres quite a lot of them that naming all of them would be time consuming to say the least).


What you mean is that not 100% of all bodies and clothing were destroyed, which is not surprising.  Recently a guy fell 47 stories yet didn't die; over 99% of those accidents leave the victim a splash on the concrete yet he survived.  Conspiracy?  No.  Just the fact that when lots of things get destroyed, the improbable survival of a little bit of it is not so improbable. 

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Final-Fan on 26 December 2007

Short version: When a car accident leaves one victim killed ten times over, horribly mutilated, yet the person in the next seat over walks away with nothing worse than a bruise from the seatbelt, it's not a conspiracy.



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