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thismeintiel said:
Fufinu said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:

30 Days of Playstation Plus is just... silly.

Hopefully the software offered is pretty decent.

Why is it silly? It gets people on board to see what that service is like (including giving away free games/themes/DLC/early beta access and free Qore episodes). I don't see anything wrong with that, especially given that they didn't even have to offer that.

Yes but in the end you get nothing to keep after the 30 days.

Not too pleased although will wait and see to what the free offering is. Also, given that I have 5 accounts, will I be getting 5 rewards?

:)

What are you talking about?  They are offering free game in conjunction with the PSN Plus, ones that you will keep.  Now, if you get something free through PSN Plus, yes, it will have to stay a member of PSN Plus to play it.  However, if you buy anything at a discount through PSN Plus, you will keep that, as well.


Erm not too keen on the buying bit atm. Hope you understand why.

€20 of credit would be cool. Would go for Mass Effect there.



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Fufinu said:


Erm not too keen on the buying bit atm. Hope you understand why.

€20 of credit would be cool. Would go for Mass Effect there.

Well, if you're talking about the CC info, there's always pre-paid PSN cards. 

But yea, credit would be cool.  We'll have to see if Sony announces anymore.



CGI-Quality said:
thismeintiel said:
Fufinu said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:

30 Days of Playstation Plus is just... silly.

Hopefully the software offered is pretty decent.

Why is it silly? It gets people on board to see what that service is like (including giving away free games/themes/DLC/early beta access and free Qore episodes). I don't see anything wrong with that, especially given that they didn't even have to offer that.

Yes but in the end you get nothing to keep after the 30 days.

Not too pleased although will wait and see to what the free offering is. Also, given that I have 5 accounts, will I be getting 5 rewards?

:)

What are you talking about?  They are offering free game in conjunction with the PSN Plus, ones that you will keep.  Now, if you get something free through PSN Plus, yes, it will have to stay a member of PSN Plus to play it.  However, if you buy anything at a discount through PSN Plus, you will keep that, as well.

Off-topic: I accepted the request, but it keeps sending me to the search users page when I head for your wall. VERY weird...

Yeah, i have the same Issue with Highywaystar.



CGI-Quality said:
thismeintiel said:
Fufinu said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:

30 Days of Playstation Plus is just... silly.

Hopefully the software offered is pretty decent.

Why is it silly? It gets people on board to see what that service is like (including giving away free games/themes/DLC/early beta access and free Qore episodes). I don't see anything wrong with that, especially given that they didn't even have to offer that.

Yes but in the end you get nothing to keep after the 30 days.

Not too pleased although will wait and see to what the free offering is. Also, given that I have 5 accounts, will I be getting 5 rewards?

:)

What are you talking about?  They are offering free game in conjunction with the PSN Plus, ones that you will keep.  Now, if you get something free through PSN Plus, yes, it will have to stay a member of PSN Plus to play it.  However, if you buy anything at a discount through PSN Plus, you will keep that, as well.

Off-topic: I accepted the request, but it keeps sending me to the search users page when I head for your wall. VERY weird...

Do I need to give you my SSN and CCN? 

Seriously though, it shows you are on my friends list now.  VGC must be messing up on your end.  How long has that been going on?



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thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:

30 Days of Playstation Plus is just... silly.

Hopefully the software offered is pretty decent.

Why is it silly? It gets people on board to see what that service is like (including giving away free games/themes/DLC/early beta access and free Qore episodes). I don't see anything wrong with that, especially given that they didn't even have to offer that.


They are trying to turn a bad PR stunt into a marketing gimic... and not even a good one.

Also, yeah... yeah they did have to offer that.  They lost a ton of peoples information... and a lot of people are mad.  Don't be surprised if they end up having to offer more, and eventually offer credit monitering services.

Agree to disagree, things could have been much worse and no.....no they didn't have to offer anything.

They did if they wanted to appear like they care for their customers.  It's basic operating procedure.  To not, would of actually hurt them pretty badly.

Also how could things of been much worse?  The information lost was more dangerous then any credit card numbers.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/226500/what_does_sony_owe_consumers_after_psn_nightmare.html

And most of this stuff has been overblown to get hits to websites.  And since when can you go into a bank and say, "Hey, I'm John Doe and I don't have any proof of identity, but I have a name and address" and they actually open the account for you, plus give you a debit card?  When I started an account, I needed my SSN and Driver's License Number (both of which are never asked of you from PSN).  And to even get a Driver's License I had to have my SS card, my birth certificate, and 2 pieces of mail to prove where I lived.  Again, I have no idea where you're getting that info and copies of those records from hacking the PSN.  The fact is, companies freely trade your info with each other all the time.  That's why you get spam emails and junk mail addressed to you personally.  And really, anyone could look up your name in the phone book to get your number and address.

The worst thing that MAY have happened is the access to your CC number.  Again, that was encrypted and Sony isn't 100% that it occurred, but are taking the neccessary steps just in case.  Another possible bad thing is that someone may have been able to see our PSN password, which means you should change any paswwords that are similar.  And Sony is already going to force everyone to change their passwords once PSN is up and running.

people have been praying for the worst for personal hate, let them wallow in it. it's all they have



thismeintiel said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Kasz216 said:

30 Days of Playstation Plus is just... silly.

Hopefully the software offered is pretty decent.

Why is it silly? It gets people on board to see what that service is like (including giving away free games/themes/DLC/early beta access and free Qore episodes). I don't see anything wrong with that, especially given that they didn't even have to offer that.


They are trying to turn a bad PR stunt into a marketing gimic... and not even a good one.

Also, yeah... yeah they did have to offer that.  They lost a ton of peoples information... and a lot of people are mad.  Don't be surprised if they end up having to offer more, and eventually offer credit monitering services.

Agree to disagree, things could have been much worse and no.....no they didn't have to offer anything.

They did if they wanted to appear like they care for their customers.  It's basic operating procedure.  To not, would of actually hurt them pretty badly.

Also how could things of been much worse?  The information lost was more dangerous then any credit card numbers.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/226500/what_does_sony_owe_consumers_after_psn_nightmare.html

And most of this stuff has been overblown to get hits to websites.  And since when can you go into a bank and say, "Hey, I'm John Doe and I don't have any proof of identity, but I have a name and address" and they actually open the account for you, plus give you a debit card?  When I started an account, I needed my SSN and Driver's License Number (both of which are never asked of you from PSN).  And to even get a Driver's License I had to have my SS card, my birth certificate, and 2 pieces of mail to prove where I lived.  Again, I have no idea where you're getting that info and copies of those records from hacking the PSN.  The fact is, companies freely trade your info with each other all the time.  That's why you get spam emails and junk mail addressed to you personally.  And really, anyone could look up your name in the phone book to get your number and address.

The worst thing that MAY have happened is the access to your CC number.  Again, that was encrypted and Sony isn't 100% that it occurred, but are taking the neccessary steps just in case.  Another possible bad thing is that someone may have been able to see our PSN password, which means you should change any paswwords that are similar.  And Sony is already going to force everyone to change their passwords once PSN is up and running.

I got that from... security experts in the field.  Also from people I know who in fact have gotten credit in other peoples name.

So... direct expierence and expert testimony.

Banks actually aren't required to get your SS# for example.

http://dailypaul.com/106790/opening-a-bank-account-without-an-social-security-number

 

There is plenty you can pull.  Heck my friend didn't need anything but a Name and an adress to get a credit card in his dad's name.



leatherhat said:

Holy shit it was college fest today and I'm inebreated. Somebody give me an update.


Sony says bye to the console race

 

and

 

Sony executives commited seppuko in public...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not!

 

:D



evolution_1ne said:
Xxain said:
alfredofroylan said:

10 million registrated users with credit cards


ALOT less that 77mill BS been thrown around.


from the fucking EXPERTS no less,

The 77 million is the figure for the  number of accounts that were compromised, not the number of accounts with credit cards. There is a big difference there.



kurasakiichimaru said:
leatherhat said:

Holy shit it was college fest today and I'm inebreated. Somebody give me an update.


Sony says bye to the console race

 

and

 

Sony executives commited seppuko in public...

Almost!  Not quite though.

 

Seriously though... "Free stuff coming, don't know what yet."


And just a bunch of "we promise it won't happen again stuff.