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Forums - Nintendo - If Nintendo really is going after the core crowd with Cafe R they too early

loves2splooge on 28 April 2011
Xen said:
Mr.Ashtear said:

Even hardcore gamers buy affected on hype...some will surely buy it, since it will be the most powerful console for 2-3 years. I dont think nobody like to wait 2-3 years to have a "better Iphone", for instance.

"It's like, two times the power of the PS3 and 360!"

"What games does it have?"

"Ugh... almost the same ones"

Pointless. Consoles are frequently bought based on games available and what is popular among your friends. Nobody buys a console for pure power, a console is bought for games. It's rumored to be somewhat more powerful than the PS3, with a CPU similar to the 360's. Will that make a big difference for multiplats? Unlikely. How many third parties will jump on the ship with exclusives? I'm gonna bet... barely any.

Yeah that's basically how it is. Nintendo could have slashed the price of the Wii and continued to give it support and it would have thrived awhile longer instead of jumping the gun with Project Cafe. Nintendo's motto for the 8th gen is "keeping up with the Joneses" and it's going to bite them in the ass. Chasing after a market (so-called "core gamer") that won't buy what they're selling. And alienating the Wii mass market.

In the portable realm, I can see NGP taking Japan (depending on the price point. NGP sounds like it could cost an arm and a leg. And the CEO of SCEE said they won't be selling it at a loss). In the west, Nintendo keeps the kids on lock down. But I could see iOS/Android combined surpassing Nintendo 8th Gen. In 2010, Nintendo was down to 57% of US portable game software revenue, iOS/Android was up to 34% and PSP was down to 9% (ouch). http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/8803739-android-ios-grab-34-of-us-portable-video-game-sales-in-2010 I'm calling it. 8th Gen handhelds in the west will go to iOS/Android devices (maybe Windows Mobile 7 can get a piece of that action too? lol. I doubt it but who knows). The NGP will be even more niche than the PSP in the west.



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Play4Fun on 29 April 2011
Xen said:
Play4Fun said:
Xen said:
Mr.Ashtear said:

Even hardcore gamers buy affected on hype...some will surely buy it, since it will be the most powerful console for 2-3 years. I dont think nobody like to wait 2-3 years to have a "better Iphone", for instance.

"It's like, two times the power of the PS3 and 360!"

"What games does it have?"

"Ugh... almost the same ones"

Pointless. Consoles are frequently bought based on games available and what is popular among your friends. Nobody buys a console for pure power, a console is bought for games. It's rumored to be somewhat more powerful than the PS3, with a CPU similar to the 360's. Will that make a big difference for multiplats? Unlikely. How many third parties will jump on the ship with exclusives? I'm gonna bet... barely any.


You know nothing, NOTHING about the thing. Why so set on calling it doomed already?

A CPU similar to 360's? You know nothing about tech.

"The 1080P compatibility will be partially thanks to the custom-built tri-core IBM PowerPC chipset that'll serve as the Wii 2's brains. It's going to be the same kind of setup that you'll find on Microsoft's Xbox 360 console. Only, Nintendo will allegedly up the clock speeds to beat out the three 64-bit, 3.2-Ghz cores of Microsoft's competing device, among other enhancements."

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2384014,00.asp

Well, apparently these guys don't know anything about it either, right? Read the thing, it's quite informative.

Also, why am I calling it doomed? Because Nintendo is going into territory it got repeatedly annihilated in. It's not gonna suddenly change.

The cores aren't really what's important. Nor does the faster than 3.2 GHz tell us much.

There is much more information needed. That's not really informative . Point is you  know next to nothing. None of us do.

So stop with the, 'Nintendo is just going to fail' at least until the damn thing comes out.

I don't think Nintendo is thinking, 'Okay, let's just give gamecube and N64 a try again and do the same thing we did last time.'