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d21lewis on 28 April 2011
Hapimeses said:
d21lewis said:

One thing that's strange (reading the "media center" part--I'm reading the OP for the third time!) is that you can't get home videos to play on the 360.  Oddly enough, I can't get them to play on the PS3.  With a 500 GB HDD, 3 Flash drives, a Droid, and now, a friggin PC connected to the same TV as the consoles (a gift from God!) it's shocking how certain videos will play on one device and not the other.  I have no idea why that is!  Some movies only work on the PS3--some only work on the 360.  Everything works on the PC, though.

Crazy, isn't it. The TV isn't what it used to be! And it seems I've been pretty lucky with the PS3. Everything I have plays on it without an issue (not that I have all that much, mind -- mostly home videos). I'd look into it if I could be bothered, but, alas, I am very lazy with such things. ;)

EDIT: Wait? What? Three times? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?


Good thing, of course!  I like the fact that your post showed virtually no traces of fanboyism.  It's just your pure experience/impression of the console.  Just what I was looking for.  I don't agree with everything you said but you strike me as a pretty level headed guy and your OP provided a rare glimpse into the mind of an actual PS3 owner with a gaming PC that didn't see the 360 as "the enemy".  You saw it for what it was: A gaming machine.



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d21lewis on 28 April 2011

--One last thing before I go back to "work" (I don't actually work when I'm at work, btw): Are you a fan of Dead Rising?  If so, there's exclusive DLC on XBL and it's on sale.  It was enough to make me buy DR2 yesterday.  Chexk into it!



dahuman on 28 April 2011
Hapimeses said:
dahuman said:

A few things:

Use PS3 Media Server as a DLNA streaming option and it does have a 360 profile for it so it you have a decent computer, it'd just convert the video and audio on the fly to a format that your 360 can handle and will play everything, the software also has the best subtitle support I've seen so far for conversions when it comes to MKV files.

That sounds like a hassle to me. Is it as much of a pain as it reads? What do I have to download, and where do I get it from? Am I a noob? Yes I am.

:D

dahuman said:

Get rechargable batteries, they are both more cost effective and more eco friendly.

If the DVD is giving you that much trouble, don't stand it up, lay it down.

I'll get there with the batteries. As for the sacratching: I wasn't referring to worrying about the 360 doing the scratching, it was the kids I was concerned about!

:D

dahuman said:

The 360 doesn't have as many exclusives on par with PS3 ones when it comes to core gaming, but it still has some that's worth your time if you've never had the 360 before, just do some research on the SP ones if you don't want to pay for Gold, even if you don't pay for Gold, your wife and her Dance Central is enough to keep the 360 around the house just like I gave my Mom a Wii with Wii Fit Plus and that's all she does. You just gotta hunt down the ones that might interest you.

Don't worry, I'm already working on that hunt. I have 10 disk games already. More will come as I find them on the cheap and I complete what I have.

Oh, and I have a Gold account already.

dahuman said:

I would recommend a Wii but with the new Nintendo piece coming out next year, it's gonna be backwards compatible to 2 gens back so I can't really say buy a Wii right now lol.....

We had a Wii for a year. It didn't agree with us in many different ways. The 360 is leaps and bounds above the Wii in terms of suiting our tastes and needs.

http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/

forums: http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/

Yes, it says PS3, but it works with pretty much anything with some tweaks.

and sucks that the Wii didn't work out since it has a lot of excellent games on it outside of the party games.

Enjoy your new console =).



Hapimeses on 28 April 2011
Tomatko said:

Hi there :) This is what i was awaiting :)

Ok.. so now, to your points :)

Games - yes, try Halo Reach or Fable III or the new Gears.. seems to be great :)

DashBoard - well, i like it..it need a time to get used to it, but then, you will find everything really quickly :)

XBLA - as i have mentrioned before - you will like it :) Yes.. tons of great games :) there are more that you will enjoy. Endless party :)

Shadow complex is not for everyone, also Alan Wake.. i enjoyed those games really much :) Have you enjoyed Heavy Rain ? Yes, and Trials - hell damn goood game but hard as a hell :D Doritos is a great game :D for party :D

Controller - well, i own Dreamcast (it has the same layout :) I prefer much more the x360 controller then PS3 - especially the "bumpers" which i was missing on PS3 gamepad for GT :)

On-Line - no doubt :) Oh.. yes.. the gold - i'm fine with it :) for the 50% sales for arcade, great multiplayer, betas :)

All in all - i'm really happy, that you don't regret what have you bought :) hope to see more kinect stuff during E3 :)  And.. just envy you..:) now, you can just enjoy every game :)

I'll get to Halo Reach once I have finished the other Halo games. Fable III will come after Fable II is completed. And I have all the Gears games currently released. I'll get there.

:D

Tomatko said:

DashBoard - well, i like it..it need a time to get used to it, but then, you will find everything really quickly :)

Yeah, it's layout will come to me eventually. I'm finding it quite unintuative, though. Time will erase that issue. As for its appearance and the adverts -- there's little that will resolve that, I fear. Especially given a close friend with very similar tastes to mine (the one I quoted in the OP) admitted he still hated the dash, and he's had a 360 since launch.

Tomatko said:

XBLA - as i have mentrioned before - you will like it :) Yes.. tons of great games :) there are more that you will enjoy. Endless party :)

Yup. There is a hell of a lot of good in there. I think I'll use the various sales and discounts to guide my buying. :D

Tomatko said:

Shadow complex is not for everyone, also Alan Wake.. i enjoyed those games really much :) Have you enjoyed Heavy Rain ? Yes, and Trials - hell damn goood game but hard as a hell :D Doritos is a great game :D for party :D

Yes, good games; I'll probably need more time with them. Yes, I enjoyed Heavy Rain. And, yes, Trails HD is damn hard!

Tomatko said:

Controller - well, i own Dreamcast (it has the same layout :) I prefer much more the x360 controller then PS3 - especially the "bumpers" which i was missing on PS3 gamepad for GT :)

Do you mean the triggers? If so, I completely agree. I much prefer them to the PS3 version.

Tomatko said:

On-Line - no doubt :) Oh.. yes.. the gold - i'm fine with it :) for the 50% sales for arcade, great multiplayer, betas :)

Sounds about right. I'm really hoping some good arcade discounts come up that I want to use; it'll make me feel less screwed by Microsoft for paying for Gold. :D

Tomatko said:

All in all - i'm really happy, that you don't regret what have you bought :) hope to see more kinect stuff during E3 :)  And.. just envy you..:) now, you can just enjoy every game :)

I, also, will be looking forward to seeing what Kinect will bring. It has potential, but that potential is yet to be used very well, I think. And, yes, no regrets.

:D



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Hapimeses on 28 April 2011
kowenicki said:
Hapimeses said:
kowenicki said:

hmm... long read and quite detailed.

You seem to start from a point of wanting to hate it and dont really move much from that...

I of course think you are wrong... but thats my opinion and you have yours.  But I do hae to say that there is so much that you have said that is at odds with general thinking.

and what serious gamer uses batteries...? get some rechargable packs for the best controller of this gen instead.

I'm really not sure what you're expecting. Should I universally praise everything even if I didn't like them? Am I not allowed to have a preference different to yours? I liked some aspects of the 360, but not all. Is that astounding? Further, I don't think I wanted to hate it; hell, I like the machine and said so several times, I just don't like every aspect of it. I feel exactly the same way about the PS3, by the way. I feel it's flawed in many ways as well.

As for not being a serious gamer because I don't have any form of rechargable packs. Sorry about that, I'm clearly not serious enough for you. And it being the best controller is entirely subjective. It certainly isn't for my wife. I like it fine enough, though.


clearly english sarcasm and humour hasnt spread to the frozen wastelands of the north yet....

Och! Whit is this 'SAARKASM'  y' throw at ma lug, sassenach? And Ah know humour well enough! That's when a sassenach tries t' drink whiskey!

Or, in truth, when I try to drink whiskey. Can't stand the stuff.

Suppose I better change the batteries in my dry wit detection device -- no rechargeables here.



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Hapimeses on 28 April 2011
ArnoldRimmer said:
d21lewis said:

I had a 360 for about a year before I got a PS3.  My heart is with the 360.  Ypu had a PS3 foor a while before you got the 360.  Your heart is with the PS3.  I guess the truth (and arguably, the problem) is that the two have so much in common that whichever one you play first is the one you end up falling in love with.  The second will just feel like a "me too!" console.

I have to disagree. I bought my PS3 18 months after my 360, yet I consider my PS3 to be superior in pretty much every respect. I actually did not even realize many of the 360's disadvantages until I got my PS3 and had a comparison. (I have to admit though that severall issues have meanwhile been fixed with the release of the 360s (being loud and ugly as hell, missing WiFi etc.).

On the actual review:

Good work! It was interesting to see just how close your experiences/opinions are to mine. The only notable difference was your impression of the 360 controller: Although all in all I too prefer the PS3 Dualshock controller (because of motion sensor, lower weight, builtin batteries, Bluetooth, charging and using via USB, better D-Pad etc.), I actually love the 360 controller's large handles.

Glad you enjoyed the OP, and glad that others feel the same way I do about certain areas of the 360. I tried my best to cover all the primary points in a way I felt was as fair as possible. I reconsidered a few lines, and scaled a few of the comments up and down a little before I finally posted.

What I find most interesting is that you're a 360 owner first, yet have come to consider the PS3 to be a better machine -- that's kinda contrary to all the other posters in this thread so far. Are there more like you? Are there more the other way around (went from PS3 to 360, and came to prefer the 360?)?

As for the 360 controller, I must stress that I really do like it. It's, for me, just as good -- no better, no worse, on balance -- than the PS3 controller. It has advantages and disadvantages, and I've been playing with it for several years. It's my wife that has all the issues. :D



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Hapimeses on 28 April 2011
d21lewis said:

Good thing, of course!  I like the fact that your post showed virtually no traces of fanboyism.  It's just your pure experience/impression of the console.  Just what I was looking for.  I don't agree with everything you said but you strike me as a pretty level headed guy and your OP provided a rare glimpse into the mind of an actual PS3 owner with a gaming PC that didn't see the 360 as "the enemy".  You saw it for what it was: A gaming machine.

Well, that's what it is, I suppose: just another gaming machine. It would be easy to lapse into fanboyish rhetoric, I suppose, and probably more acceptable to many posters here, but I can't be arsed with that. At best, it'd be a lie.

I'm a gamer. I play games. Different machines give me access to different games and different experiences. This is my first proper go with a 360, and I have formed some opinions. Clearly, they will be viewed through the lenses of the other gaming platforms I've owned (and I own, or have owned, all current gen machines, and most consoles before that), but that's inevitable, I suppose. Also, many of my opinions are subject to change as I learn more about the console through use, so this is far from eternal, rock-solid opinions here!

Anyway, glad it was a good thing. I was getting worried...

;)



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Hapimeses on 28 April 2011
d21lewis said:

--One last thing before I go back to "work" (I don't actually work when I'm at work, btw): Are you a fan of Dead Rising?  If so, there's exclusive DLC on XBL and it's on sale.  It was enough to make me buy DR2 yesterday.  Chexk into it!

I've never played it. It's a game that somehow missed my huge backlog of games to play. Should I be a fan of Dead Rising? Should I be buying it now?



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Hapimeses on 28 April 2011
dahuman said:

http://code.google.com/p/ps3mediaserver/

forums: http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/

Yes, it says PS3, but it works with pretty much anything with some tweaks.

and sucks that the Wii didn't work out since it has a lot of excellent games on it outside of the party games.

Enjoy your new console =).


Thanks!

I'll go check them out.

:D



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elvacano80 on 28 April 2011
mrstickball said:

I can't believe you suggested the PS3 over the 360 for a person without either for games.

Of course, since you've only owned a 360 for all of but a few minutes, I guess I should expect that. For a person that's owned the system since November 2005, I can tell you there are plenty of excellent exclusives to want to buy the system for. Far more than the PS3, IMO.


I couldnt have put it any better