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yeah sony screwed up in being in the PR department,but no matter how secure your network is,there's going to be someone to eventually find away around it. I still have'nt heard report's of people having shady credit card charges,that's related to this. If report's of something like that comes out,then sueing Sony is legit in my opinion. 



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evolution_1ne said:

have you been to the FAQ from Sony thread yet? if you were a fan you would have defiently went to that thread because thier the ONLY ones with the info you need


Right, because Sony have nothing to gain out of fudging the facts in thair FAQ. No shareholders to calm down, or potential consumers to lose, or brand recognition not being tarnished. Did you even take that into account?

By the way, the Japanese government declared a 20 mile radius around Fukushima "perfectly safe" despite a recording of 1000 times the amount of everyday radiation. So should we believe them too, since theyre the only ones with the info we need? Keep in mind that spin is made to maintain order, political or commercial.



SeriousWB said:

You don't get it, if it was serious enough for even an outside party to be called to investigate on top of the whole network being closed, they should have informed their customers of the possibility of information being compromised.

Do you honestly think after taking these measures they didn't know that the problem was this serious?


Brilliant, so if something, anything, happens, its best to alarm the public to every possible scenerio? Most people are idiots, IE: driving on the expressway, class action lawsuits people cant handle that.

And the thing is, when we sign ToS we agree to acknowledging that not only can this happen but we cant do shit about it and its not Sony's fault.

The sense of entitlement among people is astonishing.

Yes it blows, yes im angry because i havent been able to watch hulu or netflix on my home theater but i know everytime i scroll through my ToS and accept i am agreeing to this very damn thing. Im a grown up, i know that. I can acknowledge it sucks and not hold my hand out for a favor becaus ei realize i sign something everytime i update my firmware or made my PSN account.

We will probably get something over this, I already got my email from Hulu credited my account for a month even though ive used it on my iphone/PC for the last week. People need to stop looking for a quick buck and somethign to bitch about and just roll with the punches sometimes.....especially when the punches are something all PSN users AGREED TO IN THE TOS.



The TOS is not always legally binding, especially in cases of negligence. For example, if Sony did not follow industry practices, then they could be held liable.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

Grimes said:

The TOS is not always legally binding, especially in cases of negligence. For example, if Sony did not follow industry practices, then they could be held liable.


Sony fans generally don't care about their personal rights if it costs Sony money, well that's what you'd believe reading some of the threads on here.  Common sense dictates you can't just absolve yourself of all blame in a ToS/EULA, hence why they frequently get challenged.



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steverhcp02 said:
SeriousWB said:
 

You don't get it, if it was serious enough for even an outside party to be called to investigate on top of the whole network being closed, they should have informed their customers of the possibility of information being compromised.

Do you honestly think after taking these measures they didn't know that the problem was this serious?


Brilliant, so if something, anything, happens, its best to alarm the public to every possible scenerio? Most people are idiots, IE: driving on the expressway, class action lawsuits people cant handle that.

And the thing is, when we sign ToS we agree to acknowledging that not only can this happen but we cant do shit about it and its not Sony's fault.

The sense of entitlement among people is astonishing.

Yes it blows, yes im angry because i havent been able to watch hulu or netflix on my home theater but i know everytime i scroll through my ToS and accept i am agreeing to this very damn thing. Im a grown up, i know that. I can acknowledge it sucks and not hold my hand out for a favor becaus ei realize i sign something everytime i update my firmware or made my PSN account.

We will probably get something over this, I already got my email from Hulu credited my account for a month even though ive used it on my iphone/PC for the last week. People need to stop looking for a quick buck and somethign to bitch about and just roll with the punches sometimes.....especially when the punches are something all PSN users AGREED TO IN THE TOS.


Nice strawman in your first paragraph, don't need to say any more than that.

Yes, behold the grand sense of entitlement of wanting to be informed of a security breach in which your personal information is held.  Utterly atrocious.



radiantshadow92 said:
BenVTrigger said:
radiantshadow92 said:

People are really overblowing this.


Overblowing the biggest personal data leak in history?

Overblowing 70 million accounts being completly taken offline?

Overblowing Sony straight up not telling anyone anything about this until well after the hack took place?

Overblowing the fact that there is still a chance credit card info has been stolen?

Listen I'm a Sony fan too but lets face it....They messed up big time.


They did mess up, but people are still overblowing it especially the ones sueing them.

And I want to add that we dont even know if they really did mess up. Maybe their system was up to standard. There is an independant investigation going so we will know later on.



oldschoolfool said:

yeah sony screwed up in being in the PR department,but no matter how secure your network is,there's going to be someone to eventually find away around it. I still have'nt heard report's of people having shady credit card charges,that's related to this. If report's of something like that comes out,then sueing Sony is legit in my opinion. 

Credit card will refund you so thats not an actual losses. If someone get ID stole through a phishing method with the information gotten from Sony its something else though.



Icyedge said:
radiantshadow92 said:
BenVTrigger said:
radiantshadow92 said:

People are really overblowing this.


Overblowing the biggest personal data leak in history?

Overblowing 70 million accounts being completly taken offline?

Overblowing Sony straight up not telling anyone anything about this until well after the hack took place?

Overblowing the fact that there is still a chance credit card info has been stolen?

Listen I'm a Sony fan too but lets face it....They messed up big time.


They did mess up, but people are still overblowing it especially the ones sueing them.

And I want to add that we dont even know if they really did mess up. Maybe their system was up to standard. There is an independant investigation going so we will know later on.

What about the encryption of user data? That's a major screw up that Sony has already admitted to.



Anyone can guess. It takes no effort to throw out lots of predictions and have some of them be correct. You are not and wiser or better for having your guesses be right. Even a blind man can hit the bullseye.

slowmo said:
Grimes said:

The TOS is not always legally binding, especially in cases of negligence. For example, if Sony did not follow industry practices, then they could be held liable.


Sony fans generally don't care about their personal rights if it costs Sony money, well that's what you'd believe reading some of the threads on here.  Common sense dictates you can't just absolve yourself of all blame in a ToS/EULA, hence why they frequently get challenged.

If Sony is proved to has been negligent with the personal informations of everyone im not sure that there will be that many Sony fans defending them. With the actual situation though, its easy to understand why some defend them. Sony had thousands of hackers on their back and a system that remain unhack for the past 5 years, im not that sure we are talking about negligence. Lets follow the class action lawsuit and we will know for sure. Surely, the ToS cant absolve you of a specific country legislation.