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imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:

I'm just going to toss this out there and leave it at that:

The PS1 trounced the competition.  It sold like crazy during it's lifetime and could not be considered anything less than an incredible success.

The PS2 trounced the competition.  It became the best selling home console, ever.  It was an even bigger success.

The PS3 was expected to follow the same trend.  NOBODY expected the 360 to hold the lead as long as it did.  Personally, I expected a Dreamcast situation where the underpowered console that got released too early would get swallowed up by the Sony juggernaut.  Fact is, while the PS3 has enjoyed tremendous sales success (I didn't do an aligned launch lineup so don't crucify me if I'm wrong but--I think the PS3 actually sold faster than the PS2 for quite a while) the PS3 should have outsold the 360 ages ago.  We shouldn't even be having his debate.  The Wii sold the way the PS3 should have sold.  The Wii did what the PS3 was supposed to do.

One guy posted that if we were having a race around the world and one guy was given a ONE YEAR HEADSTART and the race ended in a virtual tie, the person that gave a headstart could be considered a winner.  He said that fact alone speaks volumes.  Well, what if you were an Olympic Gold Medal winner in "Running around the world" and you gave a retarded one legged kid  that head start? 

Sony should have finished this race a long time ago, headstart or not.   What happened was that Microsoft proved to be more competition than anybody expected them to be.  Sony not finishing them off by now is what speaks volumes.

Your analogy is stupid, it's more ps3s dad was a world campion and 360s dad sucked, when will people realize every new gen is a new gen, the stuff that happend last gen doesn't have nearly as much impact as people would believe saying ps3 should outsell the 360 because the ps2 was sucessful is stupid by that logic n64 should of outsold the ps1


I just took some other guys stupid analogy and ran with it.  Believe me, I'm way more creative than to go with using a "race around the world" metaphor. 

Nintendo made some batshit crazy decisions when it came to the N64.  Even then, people wondeed what the hell they were thinking (I know I did!).  In the end, Nintendo suffered for some poor business decisions just like Sony made some questionable decisions that they are trying to bounce back from.  That's all.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  The real test is how Sony bounces back from the errors they've made. 

And it's not just Sony--as I'm sure you know.  Microsoft has made some boneheaded moves as of late and so has Nintendo.  Nobody is above making mistakes when it comes to predicting what the gaming public will/won't embrace.



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d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:

I'm just going to toss this out there and leave it at that:

The PS1 trounced the competition.  It sold like crazy during it's lifetime and could not be considered anything less than an incredible success.

The PS2 trounced the competition.  It became the best selling home console, ever.  It was an even bigger success.

The PS3 was expected to follow the same trend.  NOBODY expected the 360 to hold the lead as long as it did.  Personally, I expected a Dreamcast situation where the underpowered console that got released too early would get swallowed up by the Sony juggernaut.  Fact is, while the PS3 has enjoyed tremendous sales success (I didn't do an aligned launch lineup so don't crucify me if I'm wrong but--I think the PS3 actually sold faster than the PS2 for quite a while) the PS3 should have outsold the 360 ages ago.  We shouldn't even be having his debate.  The Wii sold the way the PS3 should have sold.  The Wii did what the PS3 was supposed to do.

One guy posted that if we were having a race around the world and one guy was given a ONE YEAR HEADSTART and the race ended in a virtual tie, the person that gave a headstart could be considered a winner.  He said that fact alone speaks volumes.  Well, what if you were an Olympic Gold Medal winner in "Running around the world" and you gave a retarded one legged kid  that head start? 

Sony should have finished this race a long time ago, headstart or not.   What happened was that Microsoft proved to be more competition than anybody expected them to be.  Sony not finishing them off by now is what speaks volumes.

Your analogy is stupid, it's more ps3s dad was a world campion and 360s dad sucked, when will people realize every new gen is a new gen, the stuff that happend last gen doesn't have nearly as much impact as people would believe saying ps3 should outsell the 360 because the ps2 was sucessful is stupid by that logic n64 should of outsold the ps1


I just took some other guys stupid analogy and ran with it.  Believe me, I'm way more creative than to go with using a "race around the world" metaphor. 

Nintendo made some batshit crazy decisions when it came to the N64.  Even then, people wondeed what the hell they were thinking (I know I did!).  In the end, Nintendo suffered for some poor business decisions just like Sony made some questionable decisions that they are trying to bounce back from.  That's all.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  The real test is how Sony bounces back from the errors they've made. 

And it's not just Sony--as I'm sure you know.  Microsoft has made some boneheaded moves as of late and so has Nintendo.  Nobody is above making mistakes when it comes to predicting what the gaming public will/won't embrace.

Sony has already bounced pack there's a reason there are so many good games coming for ps3, and that third party support is increasing for the ps3 while it's decreasing on the other two systems 



imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:

I'm just going to toss this out there and leave it at that:

The PS1 trounced the competition.  It sold like crazy during it's lifetime and could not be considered anything less than an incredible success.

The PS2 trounced the competition.  It became the best selling home console, ever.  It was an even bigger success.

The PS3 was expected to follow the same trend.  NOBODY expected the 360 to hold the lead as long as it did.  Personally, I expected a Dreamcast situation where the underpowered console that got released too early would get swallowed up by the Sony juggernaut.  Fact is, while the PS3 has enjoyed tremendous sales success (I didn't do an aligned launch lineup so don't crucify me if I'm wrong but--I think the PS3 actually sold faster than the PS2 for quite a while) the PS3 should have outsold the 360 ages ago.  We shouldn't even be having his debate.  The Wii sold the way the PS3 should have sold.  The Wii did what the PS3 was supposed to do.

One guy posted that if we were having a race around the world and one guy was given a ONE YEAR HEADSTART and the race ended in a virtual tie, the person that gave a headstart could be considered a winner.  He said that fact alone speaks volumes.  Well, what if you were an Olympic Gold Medal winner in "Running around the world" and you gave a retarded one legged kid  that head start? 

Sony should have finished this race a long time ago, headstart or not.   What happened was that Microsoft proved to be more competition than anybody expected them to be.  Sony not finishing them off by now is what speaks volumes.

Your analogy is stupid, it's more ps3s dad was a world campion and 360s dad sucked, when will people realize every new gen is a new gen, the stuff that happend last gen doesn't have nearly as much impact as people would believe saying ps3 should outsell the 360 because the ps2 was sucessful is stupid by that logic n64 should of outsold the ps1


I just took some other guys stupid analogy and ran with it.  Believe me, I'm way more creative than to go with using a "race around the world" metaphor. 

Nintendo made some batshit crazy decisions when it came to the N64.  Even then, people wondeed what the hell they were thinking (I know I did!).  In the end, Nintendo suffered for some poor business decisions just like Sony made some questionable decisions that they are trying to bounce back from.  That's all.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  The real test is how Sony bounces back from the errors they've made. 

And it's not just Sony--as I'm sure you know.  Microsoft has made some boneheaded moves as of late and so has Nintendo.  Nobody is above making mistakes when it comes to predicting what the gaming public will/won't embrace.

Sony has already bounced pack there's a reason there are so many good games coming for ps3, and that third party support is increasing for the ps3 while it's decreasing on the other two systems 


They bounced back as far as quality is concerne, I'll give you that.  Financially, it's an entirely different story.  Still, I don't own any stock in Sony.  I'm just a video gamer and as it stands, I'm having a blast with my 2nd and 3rd place consoles (the 360 and PS3, respectively) while the 1st place console (the Wii) sits unplugged and unused on my entertainment center.  I guess it comes down to who you are and what your idea of "winning" is.

Nintendo:  Winning in overall sales but losing (in my opinion) as far as game quality.

360:  Winning as far as sales and quality but losing (in my opinion) as far as exclusive diversity is concerned.

PS3:  Losing financially but winning as far as recent sales and library content (again, in my opinion) is concerened.



d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:

I'm just going to toss this out there and leave it at that:

The PS1 trounced the competition.  It sold like crazy during it's lifetime and could not be considered anything less than an incredible success.

The PS2 trounced the competition.  It became the best selling home console, ever.  It was an even bigger success.

The PS3 was expected to follow the same trend.  NOBODY expected the 360 to hold the lead as long as it did.  Personally, I expected a Dreamcast situation where the underpowered console that got released too early would get swallowed up by the Sony juggernaut.  Fact is, while the PS3 has enjoyed tremendous sales success (I didn't do an aligned launch lineup so don't crucify me if I'm wrong but--I think the PS3 actually sold faster than the PS2 for quite a while) the PS3 should have outsold the 360 ages ago.  We shouldn't even be having his debate.  The Wii sold the way the PS3 should have sold.  The Wii did what the PS3 was supposed to do.

One guy posted that if we were having a race around the world and one guy was given a ONE YEAR HEADSTART and the race ended in a virtual tie, the person that gave a headstart could be considered a winner.  He said that fact alone speaks volumes.  Well, what if you were an Olympic Gold Medal winner in "Running around the world" and you gave a retarded one legged kid  that head start? 

Sony should have finished this race a long time ago, headstart or not.   What happened was that Microsoft proved to be more competition than anybody expected them to be.  Sony not finishing them off by now is what speaks volumes.

Your analogy is stupid, it's more ps3s dad was a world campion and 360s dad sucked, when will people realize every new gen is a new gen, the stuff that happend last gen doesn't have nearly as much impact as people would believe saying ps3 should outsell the 360 because the ps2 was sucessful is stupid by that logic n64 should of outsold the ps1


I just took some other guys stupid analogy and ran with it.  Believe me, I'm way more creative than to go with using a "race around the world" metaphor. 

Nintendo made some batshit crazy decisions when it came to the N64.  Even then, people wondeed what the hell they were thinking (I know I did!).  In the end, Nintendo suffered for some poor business decisions just like Sony made some questionable decisions that they are trying to bounce back from.  That's all.  Nothing more.  Nothing less.  The real test is how Sony bounces back from the errors they've made. 

And it's not just Sony--as I'm sure you know.  Microsoft has made some boneheaded moves as of late and so has Nintendo.  Nobody is above making mistakes when it comes to predicting what the gaming public will/won't embrace.

Sony has already bounced pack there's a reason there are so many good games coming for ps3, and that third party support is increasing for the ps3 while it's decreasing on the other two systems 


They bounced back as far as quality is concerne, I'll give you that.  Financially, it's an entirely different story.  Still, I don't own any stock in Sony.  I'm just a video gamer and as it stands, I'm having a blast with my 2nd and 3rd place consoles (the 360 and PS3, respectively) while the 1st place console (the Wii) sits unplugged and unused on my entertainment center.  I guess it comes down to who you are and what your idea of "winning" is.

Nintendo:  Winning in overall sales but losing (in my opinion) as far as game quality.

360:  Winning as far as sales and quality but losing (in my opinion) as far as exclusive diversity is concerned.

PS3:  Losing financially but winning as far as recent sales and library content (again, in my opinion) is concerened.

Even finacially they are in the process of bouncing back, they hit the floor and are going up already, ps3 is profitable, psn is getting more profitable, sw and hw sales go up every year 



imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:

Sony has already bounced pack there's a reason there are so many good games coming for ps3, and that third party support is increasing for the ps3 while it's decreasing on the other two systems 


They bounced back as far as quality is concerne, I'll give you that.  Financially, it's an entirely different story.  Still, I don't own any stock in Sony.  I'm just a video gamer and as it stands, I'm having a blast with my 2nd and 3rd place consoles (the 360 and PS3, respectively) while the 1st place console (the Wii) sits unplugged and unused on my entertainment center.  I guess it comes down to who you are and what your idea of "winning" is.

Nintendo:  Winning in overall sales but losing (in my opinion) as far as game quality.

360:  Winning as far as sales and quality but losing (in my opinion) as far as exclusive diversity is concerned.

PS3:  Losing financially but winning as far as recent sales and library content (again, in my opinion) is concerened.

Even finacially they are in the process of bouncing back, they hit the floor and are going up already, ps3 is profitable, psn is getting more profitable, sw and hw sales go up every year 


Then there you have it.  Sony does everything right and wins in every posssible way!

*slowly backs away...*

*RUNS*



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d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
d21lewis said:
imaprettyhotguy said:
 

Sony has already bounced pack there's a reason there are so many good games coming for ps3, and that third party support is increasing for the ps3 while it's decreasing on the other two systems 


They bounced back as far as quality is concerne, I'll give you that.  Financially, it's an entirely different story.  Still, I don't own any stock in Sony.  I'm just a video gamer and as it stands, I'm having a blast with my 2nd and 3rd place consoles (the 360 and PS3, respectively) while the 1st place console (the Wii) sits unplugged and unused on my entertainment center.  I guess it comes down to who you are and what your idea of "winning" is.

Nintendo:  Winning in overall sales but losing (in my opinion) as far as game quality.

360:  Winning as far as sales and quality but losing (in my opinion) as far as exclusive diversity is concerned.

PS3:  Losing financially but winning as far as recent sales and library content (again, in my opinion) is concerened.

Even finacially they are in the process of bouncing back, they hit the floor and are going up already, ps3 is profitable, psn is getting more profitable, sw and hw sales go up every year 


Then there you have it.  Sony does everything right and wins in every posssible way!

*slowly backs away...*

*RUNS*

Not everything but they've been doing alot more right in the past few years then the other two as sort of an apology for screwing up so royally lol



d21lewis said:

IOne guy posted that if we were having a race around the world and one guy was given a ONE YEAR HEADSTART and the race ended in a virtual tie, the person that gave a headstart could be considered a winner.  He said that fact alone speaks volumes.  Well, what if you were an Olympic Gold Medal winner in "Running around the world" and you gave a retarded one legged kid  that head start? 

Sony should have finished this race a long time ago, headstart or not.   What happened was that Microsoft proved to be more competition than anybody expected them to be.  Sony not finishing them off by now is what speaks volumes.


lol, i love the analogy



I was expecting some good explanation why PS3 will not catch up to 360 and all I read is AMERICA and GoW 3... I guess you don't remember EMAA/JAPAN and Sony 2011 exclusives game this year.



The Japanese were very harsh on the 360, it didn't deserve to perform so poorly over there especially in the first 2-3 years of this gen when the 360 was easily the better console. If they hadn't been so xenophobic about consoles from another country and actually try Western games (like we always play theirs though less and less so) then 360 would've been miles ahead still.

But I can't believe Americans still prefer the 360 when the PS3 is easily the better choice now and has been for at least the last 2 years imo.



UltimateUnknown said:

I'm sorry, but America alone won't help the 360 overcome the PS3. Yes, America is by far the largest region, but EMEAA and Japan combined are as big(in terms of game industry), if not bigger, and the PS3 has been outselling the 360 by miles in these regions.

Plus Gears isn't big enough to make 360 outsell PS3. Heck, I live in the UK (I'm a 360 owner) and Kinect has been selling very poorly over here.

The only thing I can see Sony lagging behind the 360 is profit. I think MS are actually making profit on the 360 right now, whereas Sony is still trying to make up for all the losses that it made during launch.

I'm from the UK and I thought nearly 1-4 360 owners have Kinect? That's not bad for something that's been out less than 6 months.