And Dodgeball (origins of the Ocho):

Wow, there IS squirel water-skiing!

how will gears 3 make the 360 sell more then europe? ofcourse it would bring a tiny push that week depending on its bundles. but how would that make it sell more for the next weeks?

PS3 will never catch 360 in America, that is certain, any one who disagress here is crazy

WW, Europe roughly equals the America sales gap, but Japan and developing markets help push the PS3 ahead, if you look at the EMEAA gap, the developing countries add quite a bit to the PS3/360 gap

NOt sure if it is in decline....More of an Western market that saw like 3-4 folded increase in the amount of developpers especially with new markets like East Europe;.

Game Informer (April issue, I think) went as far as to point out that as little as a couple of years ago (going off of memory, here.....it may have been longer.) Japan accounted for 50% of the games sold.  Now, games developed in Japan only account for 10% of the games sold today.  Doesn't invalidate your point, though.  It just shows that Japan isn't as much of a game breaker as they used to be.

I'm just going to toss this out there and leave it at that:

The PS1 trounced the competition.  It sold like crazy during it's lifetime and could not be considered anything less than an incredible success.

The PS2 trounced the competition.  It became the best selling home console, ever.  It was an even bigger success.

The PS3 was expected to follow the same trend.  NOBODY expected the 360 to hold the lead as long as it did.  Personally, I expected a Dreamcast situation where the underpowered console that got released too early would get swallowed up by the Sony juggernaut.  Fact is, while the PS3 has enjoyed tremendous sales success (I didn't do an aligned launch lineup so don't crucify me if I'm wrong but--I think the PS3 actually sold faster than the PS2 for quite a while) the PS3 should have outsold the 360 ages ago.  We shouldn't even be having his debate.  The Wii sold the way the PS3 should have sold.  The Wii did what the PS3 was supposed to do.

One guy posted that if we were having a race around the world and one guy was given a ONE YEAR HEADSTART and the race ended in a virtual tie, the person that gave a headstart could be considered a winner.  He said that fact alone speaks volumes.  Well, what if you were an Olympic Gold Medal winner in "Running around the world" and you gave a retarded one legged kid  that head start? 

Sony should have finished this race a long time ago, headstart or not.   What happened was that Microsoft proved to be more competition than anybody expected them to be.  Sony not finishing them off by now is what speaks volumes.

Your analogy is stupid, it's more ps3s dad was a world campion and 360s dad sucked, when will people realize every new gen is a new gen, the stuff that happend last gen doesn't have nearly as much impact as people would believe saying ps3 should outsell the 360 because the ps2 was sucessful is stupid by that logic n64 should of outsold the ps1

The historic norm is NO company remains on top forever.  If they manage things well enough, they stay in the game, and don't get out the way Atari and Sega did.  Sony falling out of first is normal, not the exception.  If staying on top were the norm, then Atari would still be about making consoles.  And Blade Runner would of been an accurate protrait of the future:

http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/atari-ad-in-blade-runner/272084

In this case here, the Wii did what Sony didn't do, and Sony lost the first place crown.  It is surprising Nintendo has done as well as it in the handheld console arena.

^^^Agreed.  Like every company before it, Sony is experiencing it's fall while the other two companies (former last place company, Nintendo and upstart console maker, Microsoft) are expriencing better success than last gen.  It's the way of the world.  I hearby retract my earlier statement.