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Pyro as Bill on 25 April 2011
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.



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psrock on 25 April 2011
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.

The Wii has COD.



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Light on 25 April 2011
psrock said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.

The Wii has COD.


People dont like the Cod games on wii becouse of the Contolles and graphics.and any way the wii has shit online.



               

Seece on 25 April 2011
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.


Funny, I don't remember those MarioBros fans being so loyal when the gamecube was around. COD didn't save the HD twins, I've seen your posts before though so I'm not even going to bother with you.



 

makingmusic476 on 25 April 2011

If backwards compatability were all that important, the PS3 would still have it and the console would be in first place.

If the rumors are correct, Nintendo's new console will be barely more powerful than the PS3/360 and cost >$300.  In order for them to gain any significant share of the pie, their streaming features will have to be as big of a draw as the Wiimote was this generation, and the viability of that is something we will not be able to determine until it much closer to release.

All I know is I'm very excited about the idea of a new console, and I've put my 3DS/NGP buying plans on hold in order to start saving up for this.



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thx1139 on 25 April 2011
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.


Dont think Mario Kart is a good example.  Never has a console Mario Kart title sold like Mario Kart Wii has.  You wont have any idea on loyalty until the next Mario Kart releases either for Wii or successor. GT fans havent dropped off much. Sure it isnt performing as well as GT3 or GT4 but it is close.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

snfr on 25 April 2011
zgamer5 said:
snfr said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.

Nintendo has IPs which are also attractive to the core crowd, not as much as Halo or CoD, but still attractive. Nintendo's own IPs don't even have to appeal to the core crowd, they just need exclusive 3rd party games which do the work for them. So Nintendo could easily steal the core from MS or Sony if 3rd party devs make it possible.

But then again... I doubt that we'll see much exclusive 3rd party support on any console in the future...


only ips i see attracting the core crowd, are zelda and maybe metroid. other then if starfox and kid icarus get a make over they could also attract the core crowd.

Yeah I thought about Zelda and Metroid, also a bit about Mario.



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psrock on 25 April 2011
Light said:
psrock said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

 


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.

The Wii has COD.


People dont like the Cod games on wii becouse of the Contolles and graphics.and any way the wii has shit online.

Nintendo has shit online period and if you think this is going to change so soon, good luck.



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Light on 25 April 2011
psrock said:
Light said:
psrock said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

 


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.

The Wii has COD.


People dont like the Cod games on wii becouse of the Contolles and graphics.and any way the wii has shit online.

Nintendo has shit online period and if you think this is going to change so soon, good luck.


if they remove them stupid friend codes it might be good.



               

Pyro as Bill on 25 April 2011
Seece said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Seece said:
psrock said:
Seece said:

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.


All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.


All they need is CoD. That's what saved PS360 this gen.

If you want loyalty, I suggest you look at the numbers that a game like Mario Kart pulled this gen compared to those loyal Gran Turismo fans. NSMB DS to Wii, Wii Sports to Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit to Wii Fit Plus. They look pretty loyal to me and they don't even have online in their blood. Well except for the biggest online game since 2005, Mario Kart.


Funny, I don't remember those MarioBros fans being so loyal when the gamecube was around. COD didn't save the HD twins, I've seen your posts before though so I'm not even going to bother with you.

I don't remember a Mario Bros game on the Gamecube.

Edit: You didn't like my 'Nintendo should go 3rd party' thread?



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