LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.

All I see is finally Nintendo fans will get to play games we've been playing for years. There will be plenty of ports. 

If someone has a Wii and they don't upgrade to the NES 6 then they don't lose a customer. If someone has a Wii and upgrades to the NES 6 they don't gain a customer either. This is the reason why the NES 6 exists because they need it to target people who aren't Nintendo customers and sell them a system in order to grow as a company but at the same time they need to retain what they already have or they would be going backwards instead. The important distinction here is Nintendo customer vs non Nintendo customer and how they cater to each group.

Is there any point? It's already been shown the wii userbase doesn't appreciate the core offerings they get. If Wii 2 is aimed at the core, it won't attract anywhere NEAR the amount of core owners PS360 has. and if it's a casual system again, they simply won't be buying Assassin's Creed ect in the numbers PS360 do.

I just don't think Nintendo can ever go after the core and be a sucess. I think they need to stick to what they now know and come up with something to entice the blue ocean all over again.

I do think Nitnendo are now realising how unloyal that sector is though, does make me wonder why MS and Sony, MS obviously more so, are going after them.

Well, that's a good point. But the question is... will backwards compatibility be enough to retain what they already have? Of course it could, but that's not for sure IMO.

Still holding final initial thoughts until we actually get the real information about the next Nintendo console, but here are initial thoughts.

Wii "Casual" customers upgrade habits are a big if.  No guarantee that these customers upgrade quickly if at all.  They could be people that are happy to play Wii Sports for years.

Indeed, and at the risk of annoying people, the rate of which people still play their Wii's isn't great, at least according to a UK report (Which I'm trying to find right now lol)

Touchscreen controller makes playing games more complex. Part of the comfort of a controller is you learn where everything is at and then you really never have to look at the controller, your muscle memory knows where the buttons and sticks our. If I have a screen that I am not looking at because I am focused on the main action on the TV screen the touch screen becomes a nuisance.

Which will put the casuals off, the reason they love Kinect and Wii is because it's simple, my mother isn't going to want to learn how to use a handheld ... but she was fine with Wii and Kinect.

Slightly more power than 360/PS3 doesnt do much for the Nintendo next. Sure they may get some more late generation ports (not all because the userbase will just not be that large).  But why would someone be all that inclined to pick up the Nintendo next for that.  Hell 360/PS3 will be $100 to $200 cheaper by the time this releases.  Also with the power being roughly the same MS/Sony can release add-ons to the 360/PS3 that mimics whatever Nintendo comes up with (controller wise) and still be cost competitive.

Also like I said above, the current Wii audience just isn't interested in those games in large droves. and I fail to see how they're going to attract any core from PS360, they have to offer MORE than PS360, not just on par (or slightly ... ok WAY below it when it comes to online)

If Nintendo isnt using the motion control games as the selling point and going back to Mario, Zelda as the reasons to purchase this console then they are just going after the customer that they already have locked in.  The 1st party games that truly made a difference were the motion controlled focused games.

LOL @ people thinking Nintendo can steal the core from Microsoft ... er no chance.

It takes more than horsepower to attract the core, and Nintendo's IPs are just NOT attractive to the core crowd, coupled with the fact they don't have online in their blood and they'll forever be behind MS in that department, heck only Sony is catching up now.

They can't retain all their customers, they just have to gain more than they lose to be successful and hopefully they will gain significantly more customers than they lose (from their perspective anyway).

Nintendo has IPs which are also attractive to the core crowd, not as much as Halo or CoD, but still attractive. Nintendo's own IPs don't even have to appeal to the core crowd, they just need exclusive 3rd party games which do the work for them. So Nintendo could easily steal the core from MS or Sony if 3rd party devs make it possible.

But then again... I doubt that we'll see much exclusive 3rd party support on any console in the future...