Kudistos Megistos said:
Icyedge said:
He isnt right, but please lets place thing in perspective. All company take bad decision at some time, its not a reason to nitpick on those to make a global statement. Particularly considering that Linux is one of the least use feature of the PS3. Add to that that its possible to keep Linux unless you upgrade to the new firmware update. With both condition you get an issue affecting a very very low percentage of the customer (surely less then 1% but I dont have an exact value).
Linux might not have been used by most people, but it was still an advertised feature. Sony sold the fat PS3 under the understanding that the PS3 would be able to run Linux and also access PSN. Now, it can't do these things; it can only do one. The owners of the PS3 have lost the ability to do one of the things they paid for.
Now, keep it mind it was remove because it was proved to be an hole for pirating.
But look at what has happened. People have now found a way to jailbreak the PS3 without using Linux. Previously, Sony had a security hole on its hands.
Now, it has a security hole, potential lawsuits and angry customers who have lost one of the functions of their PS3. Sony would have been far better off leaving Linux alone.
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kitler53 said:
lulz -- sony has way more respect for their customers right now than nintendo or ms. remember, if hackers would just have not breached the ps3's security you'd still have the other OS feature that nintendo and ms wouldn't even give you as an option. when you give sony trouble for giving out gifts -- don't expect any more gifts.
maybe next time sony will do overpriced propriety hard drives like ms ... or take away the internet browser ... or make you pay for online ... or not let you play bluray/dvds ... or not let you make your own backgrounds ...
yeah i'm sorry -- sony has been way better to consumers thank you very much.
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The last time I checked, infringing their customers rights wasn't considered very respectful.
And as I said, Sony is only shooting itself in the foot if it tries to punish honest gamers because of its own security failures and paranoia about piracy. It will keep on losing market share.
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Or those people are shooting themselves in the foot by using a feature the wrong way, the piracy lovers are only making it worse for the TRUE homebrew people. They took it too far, and this is the result. This is something that goes both ways.
Sony: security failure/feature = hackers: Hacking Skilzz going too far.
Sony: fear of piracy/hacks = hackers: making piracy and hacking possible!
You can't have Sony's problems without the hackers, remove them and Sony's problems disappear. Hackers staying within bounds = keeping OtherOs, but its too late for that now. I feel bad for the people who just wanted their OtherOs function for something that didn't compromise any other party.
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And It could be just my eyes getting old, but I seem to see Sony gaining a bigger market share again. Despite their customer rights infringement. And how many of those ''honest'' gamers are really that honest? A lot of them, if not almost all of them are doing way worse things to other companies and gamers. Most ''honest'' gamers don't care about the OtherOS or actually agree with nullifying it, lets be honest here, how many people actually knew it existed before it got removed?
The problem with these kind of things is that people only see the bad side of stuff, they removed a small function of the ps3, but people don't see the stuff they got for free AFTER buying their product. They nag more about a single feature being removed, than a bunch of new ones being put in.
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If sony needs to pay someone for removing a feature, then should they pay for getting new ones? The new one wasn't mentioned when they bought their ps3 either right, so Sony could just charge for it right? When the old ones are removed, aswell as when knew ones are putting in, you have to agree to the new users terms of the update. You can also choose to not agree to them and keep your OtherOS and old features, with the cost of not being to able to play the newest games.
Btw, did the mention of the OtherOS by sony include the promise that they could play the latest games without losing the OtherOS? Yes I agree it seems natural, but you should always doublecheck that before getting ripped of by a loophole.
People should really give the big three a break sometimes, they're not perfect, everyone can make a mistake. But instead of console wars we are getting the nag and sue wars. I actually like the console wars better, at least it made me lol sometimes.
EDIT: I would't mind if this dude got paid, but it wouldn't be fair to others...... And paying everyone(who really used it) back 100$, just wouldn't work in practice. And 100$ is just too much anyway.