PS3 Domination was a term invented by certain PS3 fanboys who honestly believed that with any major release the PS3 would suddenly dominate - this included games such as VF5 and LAIR.

Most PS3 fans are not stupid enough to believe that sort of thing.

You cant dominate anything from second place.

Period. You can attempt and discredit the opponent you cant defeat (Wii) in order to make yourself feel better about not being #1. But that illusion can fool only yourself.

 Sony can ;).

It's called delayed domination ! 

Paragraph 4:  There is absolutely no evidence to show that for the first time ever EVER in the industry a system with insane sell-through over its first year-plus with a continuing supply of great games turns around and bombs in sales (which it would have to since there is less than zero evidence that 360 or PS3 can catch up to even stagnant Wii sales).  "PS3 is for REAL gamers, while Wii is casual heaven", again, is totally laughable. 

If Wii sells the most hardware, in what way do you propose it would "lose the final race"?  I suppose you mean attach rate since Nintendo has already made more profit than Sony or MS ever will this generation.  How is that a valid measure of "winning" a console generation?  Does this mean that the PS2 lost last generation because it had the lowest attachment rate? 

Some people seem to forget thyat there is two part to "___ domination starts".

This was first used by PS3 proponents to mean that at that point (Gundam Musou, motorstorm, 2008...) the PS3 would have left the path where it sold less than its competitors and would begin on the path that would eventually lead it to domination (i.e. its momentum changes and start moving in a direction where it would eventually overcome the 360's and wii's momentum). For that to happen it doesn't need to sell 10 millions in a month to catch up with Wii or even to sell more than the Wii but it would need to improve its sales week after week until it eventually did the latter and for a long enough period for it to do the former.

Of course, with its continuous failure to do so and the numerous pushing back of it to later game release/price drop/dates it was taken over by Wii proponents as a sarcastic term for when Ps3 proponents tout Sony successes a little bit too early (like November Japanese sales). PS3 porponents, like any good doomsday prophet are now being more careful to foresee PS3 domination in a future that is far enough that most will not remember their post by then.

Now, as to who is dominating this market I would have to say that the 360 started dominating it by default of not having any competitors and its domination had its golden age around Xmas 2006 as the other two were supply constrained.

However, since the beginning of 2007 its domination has been waning while the Wii started catching up; thus, using the expression coined by PS3 fans the Wii's domination started January 2007. It wasn't complete by then of course but that month marks the turning point where the momentum of the wii became higher than that of the 360 so that the domination would eventually pass form the 360 to the Wii.

At the time the Wii and PS3 were both dominating over the 360 in Japan but not over each other yet. Since then the wii went on to dominate Japan and thanks to that to take the lead worldwide last summer and is now almost far enough ahead to be considered dominating worldwide IMO (which would be 5-10% total marketshare more than the runner up). It took until close to the holiday for it to take the lead in Europe and should dominate it in the next few months (depending on whether it goes back to being available in Europe after Xmas or stays almost sold out for a few months and depending on whether Wii Fit rises sales significantly its domination here might be as early as Q1 CY08 or as late as Q3 CY08 but unless the "Wii Fad" theory miraculously turns out to be true it will be dominating there by Xmas 08).

As for the US, given that it was sold out all year long and that Wii Fit hits next year, when it overtakes the 360 depends on how much of its production Nintendo decides to allocate to it but I doubt that it will dominate there until 2009 as it is the 360's strongest market and I believe that MS will seriously lower the price when jasper arrives, which will improve its sales and delay Nintendo's overtaking/domination there.

Even though the Wii's won't be dominating each individual market but Xmas 08 I expect it to be dominating globally in the first half of 2008 (i.e. Wii 45%; 360: 35% and PS3:20% give or take 1-2%) and to have 50% domination by the first half of 2009 at the latest (second half of 2008 at the earliest but possibly losing it during Xmas 08 if that is the case). The latter is unlikely as it would need the PS3 and 360 sales to considerably slow down, at which point they would cut the price to get them back up as their price is still very high (like Sony did this year, twice).

Anyway, if anyone care to put it in their sig, my prediction is that by the end of June 2009 at the latest the Wii will have more than 50% marketshare and will not lose that majority this generation.

Why do some Sony fans sometimes think that the PS3 doesnt compete against the Wii. Oh cuz its not HD? Oh cuz its casual vs high end?

BS.

The Wii is kicking the crap out of Sony (and MS) in Japan. Yes they fucking compete. Everytime a consumer spends Wii money its money that Sony or MS is not getting. 

Im guessing the Sony Defense Force sees no hope in competing against the unstoppable Wii, so they just make up some weak BS that its not the same market and then focus their fanboyism on the 360, which they actually have a hope of gaining on.

Its the same BS that the "360 doesnt compete against the Wii". Yes they fucking do. The only difference is the Wii60 phenomenon came about because the 2 systems seemed to actually complement each other. In terms of games, and price, getting both was actually affordable by many gamers.

Saying the PS3 doesnt compete against the Wii is just a weak cop out line used after one year of getting the ass beat. Just eat it.

(by the way, I do believe the PS3 will make huge gains this year. It wont be domination, but it wont be anywhere near as far behind as it is now. End of 08 will be a much closer battle)

It's funny to see Wii haters crying that only casual Nintendo games sell on the Wii. Take a real hard look at the sales numbers, and take a look at how much good software has been released by 3rd parties, and then try to say the same without feeling like an idiot.

There are:

- so called "casual games" selling well, both by Nintendo and 3rd parties

- so called "hardcore games" selling well, both by Nintendo and 3rd parties

Most people don't care which company made a game. They care about good games, and good games will sell well on the Wii. The attach rate will obviously be lower than that of PS3 and 360 (because that's what happens to the console which appeals to the biggest amount of people), but that doesn't matter at all for software developers. What matters is how well their software sells in terms of absolute numbers, that's what gets their bank accounts going.

I know exactly what you mean and I also hope this solves the problem. It's annoying. Like wasn't Halo 3 supposed to absolutely destroy the PS3?? like it was an amazing game and it sold over 6 million to date and is still selling well, but it nowhere near destroyed the PS3. It didn't help PS3 but it didn't destroy it.

I really don't think one game for any system can cause "(insert system name) domination".

All these great titles like Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, etc. that people are always saying are bombing sell decently over time as we have been seeing. They are helping the PS3 tie with the X360 because it helps make the PS3 a more attractive console to buy.

I haven't really seen many Sony fans in the forums use the "PS3 domination starts xxx" phrase in the last few months as I have seen Wii(60) fans use it as flamebait.

friedtofu,

I m sorry to see that the title that succeed to boost the Wii sales recently in Japan is Wiifit, not SMG !!!

Keep this in mind and u will understand why the Wii is MAINLY casual

(same is true for the DS Lite)

Maybe things will change with more hardcore targeted games hitting the Wii in 2008.
We will see.