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he Internet was set ablaze this week when the first wave of reports regarding Nintendo's next-generation console, the Wii 2, hit the web. First reported by Game Informer, and later confirmed by IGN's own sources, the console, which has been code named Project Cafe, will match or surpass the processing power of the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 and support a new controller that combines a traditional dual-analog design with an integrated touchscreen display. 

Though many were quick to liken the concept to the Dreamcast, we've since learned that the intended purpose for the display may be far more complex, working simultaneously with the console to bring interactive elements and even stream full games to the controller.

The Display


When reports first broke that the controller would feature an integrated display but maintain physical analog sticks, action buttons, and shoulder buttons, the first, albeit somewhat fantastical thought that came to mind was a design where the entire faceplate was an LCD display, however, we've since been told that the display will instead be a 6-inch touchscreen, likely positioned at the center of the shell. 

The display will also reportedly support touch control, though we've not been told whether or not the display will support multitouch. The display will also allegedly feature HD resolution, allowing for seamless transmission between the console and the controller. Though certainly a possibility, the costs associated with integrating a HD display into the design suggest that the true resolution may be lower. 

Even with the lowest quality components, a controller with an integrated 720p HD or greater display would require an MSRP of $80 or more. Aside from the cost of the display itself, Nintendo would have to use a built-in processor to control the display, not to mention additional chipsets for wireless connectivity. According to sources with knowledge of peripheral production, a controller of that complexity could easily cost $25 in factory costs alone, whereas a wireless Wiimote is estimated to cost Nintendo only $6 per unit. On the other hand, if Nintendo really wanted to push the concept, they could forfeit a portion of the markup to keep retail costs down. 

As previously mentioned, the other lingering question is whether or not the device will support single or multitouch haptic control, which could be used for minigames, creating contextual controls for games being played on the console, or games played exclusively though the controller itself. Again, adding multitouch support would drive up costs but potentially provide a more compelling gameplay experience. 

Working Wirelessly With the System


If the controller is expected to support games and video streamed from the console, there are a number of plausible ways the device could connect with system. Currently, Nintendo utilizes Bluetooth and infrared technology for wireless communication with the Wii, which transmit standard button input, as well as motion sensing and on-screen pointer positioning data to the console. Depending on the capabilities and function of the new controller, however, 2.4GHz wireless technology may be the more realistic solution, as it allows for wireless video transmission. 

 

 


Though the next-generation Bluetooth standard, version 3.0, allows for wireless video transmission, it has not been widely implemented by hardware manufacturers and as a result comes at a high cost. Alternatively, combining Bluetooth and a proprietary 2.4GHz system would be more cost effective and allow Nintendo to separate standard input controls and audio and video transmissions to-and-from the system. 

A dual 2.4GHz and Bluetooth system would also support the claims that the controller could allow users to play games without the use of a TV, making it a handheld tethered to the range of the 2.4GHz transmitter, of sorts. If video and audio are simply transmitted to the controller itself, it could effectively end battles for living room TV usage or splitscreen multiplayer. 

The Battery


Of course, these picturesque dreams of elaborate controller hijinks would have a detrimental effect on battery life, and Nintendo would have to pack a sizable battery solution inside. On the one hand, they could maintain a cost-effective removable battery solution, but a built-in rechargable lithium ion battery might be more convenient. The internal battery could potentially charge during use via a USB connection to the console, much like the PS3, and Nintendo could make life even easier by implementing inductive charging capabilities. They could make USB the default charging solution but offer an optional inductive charging surface of their own, as well as let third-party manufacturers provide a variety of alternatives. 

Obviously this is pure speculation, but it would be awesome all the same. 


What do you think of the Project Cafe controller rumors? Sound off in the comments section below. 



 

        

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You need to cite where you got the article.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1162204



voty2000 said:

You need to cite where you got the article.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1162204


im pretty sure people are not that lazy to figure out its from ign and searching forit



 

        

Here are my thoughts:

  • The console will definitely have Bluetooth hardware, as it was already said that it will be backward compatible to the Wii and all of its accessories. That means it will for example support the Wii Balance Board and thus it requires Bluetooth. And since it definitely has Bluetooth hardware anyway, I have a feeling that the controller will simply use Bluetooth for communication with the console. The limited bandwidth problem will be avoided by simply using little bandwidth Which is why I don't believe the controller will be commonly used to stream fullscreen HD video to. Because while there are wireless standards capable of transfering HD video with a reasonable amount of FPS, I doubt that they are capable of transfering four such streams at the same time in the same room without problems (four, because I expect the console to support at least four players, each having a controller)
  • I wonder if the Touchscreen will be multitouch? Such a controller would be fantastic for painting games like Art Academy on the DS, but such games work better on non-multitouch screens because one can use pens. Still, I guess it will probably be multitouch.
  • The controller will be accompanied by a PS Eye/Kinect-like camera/microphone combination inside the sensor bar, resulting in a motion control system technically very close to PS Move, but even better than PS Move when it comes to being used as an on-screen-pointer.
  • The controller will definitely include a speaker again, and maybe even a microphone.


If anything the controller makes me think that this isn't true the MOST. Why would Nintendo go from a simple, intuitive design like the Wii-Mote towards something more complicated than even the current controllers are? That doesn't sound like Nintendo in the LEAST



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dany612 said:
voty2000 said:

You need to cite where you got the article.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1162204


im pretty sure people are not that lazy to figure out its from ign and searching forit


no you should cite your article. I thought it was something you wrote yourself. Give credit where credit is due



They say its gonna have a controller with a 6" touchscreen and dual analogue? The NGP has 5" touchscreen, so to me it sounds like the controller might look something like a cross betwwen the NGP and the bottom screen of the 3ds.

 

Anyways, the rumours is just too strong not to have grains of truth to it . I guess we'll see at E3



dany612 said:
voty2000 said:

You need to cite where you got the article.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1162204


im pretty sure people are not that lazy to figure out its from ign and searching forit


Try telling that to your teachers/professors after you write a research paper.



wfz said:
dany612 said:
voty2000 said:

You need to cite where you got the article.

http://m.ign.com/articles/1162204


im pretty sure people are not that lazy to figure out its from ign and searching forit


Try telling that to your teachers/professors after you write a research paper.

hahahahaha :P



 

        

So the controller will be a Tingle Tuner? AWESOME!

Seriously, sounds cool, I'm just really trying put too much thought into any of this until all the rumor becomes a bit more factual and we get some stuff from Nintendo themselves, even if it's just a tease. It will be fun to see Nintendo move away from motion control a bit, right as MS and Sony have jumped onto that banwagon. Should be interesting no matter what.



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