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Wonktonodi on 27 April 2011

so help me this day is going to kill me

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Hephaestos on 27 April 2011

meh.... i'm really starting to lean more and more on Trash.... Hat took time to modkill, that should indicate the balance would be affected.

poison as mafia kill is also balance, it permits a higher mafia ratio, since it's basically giving a townie clearance to speak every day.

SK we have and not vig, that's what I gathered from baal, and yes, it most definitely is the guy in the videos (magnus?). @wonk, SK should not want to kill baal cause a) he should target scum b) i believe i understood baal's role. Heck i'd be willing to pull off a Hat and ask the SK to claim but that would be "breaking the game". But it'd be win win for the town, both if i'm right or wrong =)

then I have my usual paranoias on some players, but noting tangible (much).

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Hephaestos on 27 April 2011

oh and baal, don't target me tonight, you might as well already be vanilla. (just saying in case you thought i was hinting at something else).

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Hephaestos on 27 April 2011

theprof00 said:

Jeez, took me half an hour to write that without the "stfu, expletive, expletive". How do you guys keep yourselves in check all the time?

yeah you should stop cursing, it's bad for the town it spreads confusion... on my health however it has no effect (thankfully)

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theprof00 on 27 April 2011

Wonktonodi said:

theprof00 said:

Also, at the time, I sincerely believed that Baal was a vig, and killed last night.

That might have something to do with my misinterpetation.

the site is having issue loading so I'll be trying again latter but a few things

I don't see any vote by you

your misinterpeting a bit much this game

and what are your thoughts on etting more info out of baal?

I'm being polite when I say I'M misinterpreting things. :P

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theprof00 on 27 April 2011

Final-Fan said:

theprof00 said:

This is the last time I'm going to explain this.

1 Kill conditions:

Say there are 3 mafia, and 10 townies= 13 total.
conditions: 1 kill per night, mislynch day 1
End N1: 11 remain ; End N2; 9 remain; End N3; 7 remain ; D4 is lylo (lynch correctly or lose)
conditions: 1 kill per night, no lynch day 1
End N1: 12 ; N2 ; 10 remain ; N3 8 remain ; D4 is lylo
(SAME RESULT)

You are factually incorrect when you say Lynch and No Lynch first days both end in lylo under the same conditions (described above). I snipped the other scenarios since the misunderstanding is the same in all of them.

"N3 8 remain ; D4 is lylo" In fact, if there were 5 townies and 3 mafia, the town could No Lynch: N4 would not end the game and D5 would occur. This situation is known as mylo, where only a mislynch will end the game in scum's favor. This is different from lylo because in lylo a (correct) lynch must occur to avoid town loss.

If the town still has roles that can do interesting things at night when it gets down to mylo, it can be argued that adding the extra time on the clock was worth giving up the first day lynch. However, my point was simply to correct that false assertion.

just wanted to make sure that you were simply doing this to change lylo to mylo, because adding an extra no lynch....that would be 2 no lynches. 2 Shots the town had at lynching scum.

Shit from now on why don't we just no lynch every day til mylo? /sarcasm