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wtf happened to this thread. It says I posted a few minutes ago, but my post is nonexistant. Fortunately I was able to travel back in the history to recover it. Apologies if this turns into a double post.

Too much in need of sleep to properly comment now, but a few things:

Wonk, you're so wrong about me that I'm going to feel bad for you. I'll answer everything you say properly after work tomorrow, but in the meantime stop tunneling. You're looking for incriminating evidence because you had this notion(completely unfounded as you'll come to find out) from day one that I'm scum. Read what I've said today as if it's all true and think on things for a bit.

I don't like this leatherhat lynched that popped up. Trying to get him to be active, as newb scum is usually very easy to spot, is a great idea. Thinking he's a good lynch because he lurked is a bad idea. Sure he could be scum, but it's a lynch that would give very little information.

I still want to look into the Baal thing; however, though I'm very untrusting of him, there's no chance he should be lynched today.

That's it for now, I'll be back in ~14 hours. Town, don't decide to be hasty today and lynch while I'm gone.



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I take notes Wonk, but I still can't understand you as a target... sure someone claiming vanilla is more town leaning than others but for the scum it also is a target that has less chance of being a power role. Especially with your rotwiler bite on the attitude thowards vanilla.

It is also for this reason that I don't see why prof would have targeted you. You had the argument with him, he was thus very aware of your role. Unless he's an unscannable SK, which would make him want to not risk killing the eventual cop. I got cleared by being bussed when the cop scanned me on my first round as SK :p, scannable though but the effect was the same, even as I didn't know much about the rules and roles, I got a free pass to home base. An unscannable SK would not need to be bussed for the same effect.

In any case, talk, talk, you always do it best in your last day =D



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Linkzmax said:

wtf happened to this thread. It says I posted a few minutes ago, but my post is nonexistant. Fortunately I was able to travel back in the history to recover it. Apologies if this turns into a double post.

Too much in need of sleep to properly comment now, but a few things:

Wonk, you're so wrong about me that I'm going to feel bad for you. I'll answer everything you say properly after work tomorrow, but in the meantime stop tunneling. You're looking for incriminating evidence because you had this notion(completely unfounded as you'll come to find out) from day one that I'm scum. Read what I've said today as if it's all true and think on things for a bit.

I don't like this leatherhat lynched that popped up. Trying to get him to be active, as newb scum is usually very easy to spot, is a great idea. Thinking he's a good lynch because he lurked is a bad idea. Sure he could be scum, but it's a lynch that would give very little information.

I still want to look into the Baal thing; however, though I'm very untrusting of him, there's no chance he should be lynched today.

That's it for now, I'll be back in ~14 hours. Town, don't decide to be hasty today and lynch while I'm gone.

i've had posts lag in appearing (see my "2 posts eaten" comment a few days ago).... apparently yours did too.



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A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

Obviously Linkz wasn't the one who targeted me if he's still voting for me, I still was able to use my role (to see someone targeted me) so I wasn't role blocked.

This sounds like you're claiming a role that I've seen elsewhere called a Psychic, which knows if someone visits them. It's confirmable because you can't make up someone visiting you or eventually you'd be caught in the lie. And it would be the most horrible scum role ever as it basically outs any town powers, so despite your horrendous play day one I'm buying you as town.

Unvote

I'm not pyshic, I just get random info. This night I got who targeted me, I was hoping for info on another player.

A Bad Clown is pulling off the same stunts as last game it seems.

First statement: Someone targeted me last night. - I'm fine with that one

Second statement: Obviously Linkz wasn't the one who targeted me if he's still voting for me, I still was able to use my role (to see someone targeted me) so I wasn't role blocked. - Notice here that he deduces that Linkz isn't the one who targetted him because of his vote. Indicating that he doesn't know who targetted him, this is reinforced by the use of "someone" instead of "who" in the second sentence.

Third statement: I'm not pyshic, I just get random info. This night I got who targeted me, I was hoping for info on another player. - Now somehow he got the who targetted him instead of just the fact that someone targetted him.

Vote: A Bad Clown

If you're gonna lie, stick to one story it'll go better next time.

HoS: Linkzmax

For believing ABC so easily and for believing "I just get random info" to be a confirmable role.



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TruckOSaurus said:

Vote: A Bad Clown

If you're gonna lie, stick to one story it'll go better next time.

HoS: Linkzmax

For believing ABC so easily and for believing "I just get random info" to be a confirmable role.


Can't mess with GlaTOS he has inhanced BS tech.

I'm in support linching one of the ABC Linkz duo.



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I think there is something very awry with ABC's play. 

From my experience in mafia, a scum almost always hides behind a useless role. I don't mean useless as in double-voter, or townie, but as back-up cop who investigated 2 people who died during the night, a role that receives cryptic information (my own in the FF game), any role who was blocked twice, etc etc.

Coming out to say that nothing very important happened is very suspect.



Hephaestos said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Vote: A Bad Clown

If you're gonna lie, stick to one story it'll go better next time.

HoS: Linkzmax

For believing ABC so easily and for believing "I just get random info" to be a confirmable role.


Can't mess with GlaTOS he has inhanced BS tech.

I'm in support linching one of the ABC Linkz duo.

Though I agree that Linkz and ABC are better by far more suspicious I am going to keep my vote at leatherhat for the time being.



Linkzmax said:

Too much in need of sleep to properly comment now, but a few things:

Wonk, you're so wrong about me that I'm going to feel bad for you. I'll answer everything you say properly after work tomorrow, but in the meantime stop tunneling. You're looking for incriminating evidence because you had this notion(completely unfounded as you'll come to find out) from day one that I'm scum. Read what I've said today as if it's all true and think on things for a bit.

I don't like this leatherhat lynched that popped up. Trying to get him to be active, as newb scum is usually very easy to spot, is a great idea. Thinking he's a good lynch because he lurked is a bad idea. Sure he could be scum, but it's a lynch that would give very little information.

I still want to look into the Baal thing; however, though I'm very untrusting of him, there's no chance he should be lynched today.

That's it for now, I'll be back in ~14 hours. Town, don't decide to be hasty today and lynch while I'm gone.


the bolded statment just makes me laugh, I have clear enough reasons that others can follow so I don't think I'm wrong although if I am I'm not alone.

Now as for evidence you have it a bit wrong. I was suspicious of ABC as well. Your vote of him and sudden flip off of his bad claim and insistence that what he claimed makes him town looks really bad. That is all you and all today.

As for tunneling I'm comenting on other happenings as well and have more than one suspect I'm willing to vote for, I've got only one day left afaik so I want to make the best of it, no time for tunneling.



TruckOSaurus said:
A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

Obviously Linkz wasn't the one who targeted me if he's still voting for me, I still was able to use my role (to see someone targeted me) so I wasn't role blocked.

This sounds like you're claiming a role that I've seen elsewhere called a Psychic, which knows if someone visits them. It's confirmable because you can't make up someone visiting you or eventually you'd be caught in the lie. And it would be the most horrible scum role ever as it basically outs any town powers, so despite your horrendous play day one I'm buying you as town.

Unvote

I'm not pyshic, I just get random info. This night I got who targeted me, I was hoping for info on another player.

A Bad Clown is pulling off the same stunts as last game it seems.

First statement: Someone targeted me last night. - I'm fine with that one

Second statement: Obviously Linkz wasn't the one who targeted me if he's still voting for me, I still was able to use my role (to see someone targeted me) so I wasn't role blocked. - Notice here that he deduces that Linkz isn't the one who targetted him because of his vote. Indicating that he doesn't know who targetted him, this is reinforced by the use of "someone" instead of "who" in the second sentence.

Third statement: I'm not pyshic, I just get random info. This night I got who targeted me, I was hoping for info on another player. - Now somehow he got the who targetted him instead of just the fact that someone targetted him.

Vote: A Bad Clown

If you're gonna lie, stick to one story it'll go better next time.

HoS: Linkzmax

For believing ABC so easily and for believing "I just get random info" to be a confirmable role.


great points. Although personally I'd rather go for linkz today instead of ABC if things at all get to close I will change my vote. I'd rather get you to change yours though.



Hephaestos said:

I take notes Wonk, but I still can't understand you as a target... sure someone claiming vanilla is more town leaning than others but for the scum it also is a target that has less chance of being a power role. Especially with your rotwiler bite on the attitude thowards vanilla.

It is also for this reason that I don't see why prof would have targeted you. You had the argument with him, he was thus very aware of your role. Unless he's an unscannable SK, which would make him want to not risk killing the eventual cop. I got cleared by being bussed when the cop scanned me on my first round as SK :p, scannable though but the effect was the same, even as I didn't know much about the rules and roles, I got a free pass to home base. An unscannable SK would not need to be bussed for the same effect.

In any case, talk, talk, you always do it best in your last day =D


as for me being a target, although I supsect prof more than anyone else, that doesn't mean much. Heck hat could even have givin him a role where he can poison and cure it. Let proff have some fun investigating people by getting them close to death. Although that is really unlikely.

Why would scum believe me though? They could think I was claiming it to hide a roll. (if they did ha ha) They also could have wanted to take me out for being on to them (the ABC Linkz duo) while prof would be the first suspect.