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Baalzamon said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:

About Baal, I don't think he's a Vigilante, he could very well be the firefighter who comes usually with an arsonist in a Mafia game.

Baal said "Unless I'm being fucked over, the burn kill wasn't mafia, but I can't elaborate based on rules to the game :).  As for the poison, I have absolutely no clue what that is."

That's essentially claiming the kill, because if he were merely the preventer of such a kill, he wouldn't be able to say the kill didn't come from mafia, and could outright say there's an arsonist actually.

If he's actually claiming the kill and he's a vigilante, it makes me wanna vote for him for being stupid. How many times do we have to spell out that killing on Night One isn't a good idea for a vigilante?

Ugh, I've tried my darndest to reveal the information that I know (unless I'm being fucked over, as I stated), without losing my role, but you just aren't seeming to get it, so I give up on that aspect.

unless you made the kill it's hard for us to understand how you know that it wasn't mafia.



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Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

Obviously Linkz wasn't the one who targeted me if he's still voting for me, I still was able to use my role (to see someone targeted me) so I wasn't role blocked.

This sounds like you're claiming a role that I've seen elsewhere called a Psychic, which knows if someone visits them. It's confirmable because you can't make up someone visiting you or eventually you'd be caught in the lie. And it would be the most horrible scum role ever as it basically outs any town powers, so despite your horrendous play day one I'm buying you as town.

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This feels like such a big scum set up to me.You go after him day one. Come up with a plan in the night. Vote him early. He comes up with some crazy role. You think the crazy role proves he's town and move on. Well linkz I don't buy it and think both you and ABC should be lynched. Sadly I doubt I'll live long enough to push for both of them. That and then prof.

 Plus How would we catch him in the lie exactly linkz? Have every player say they didn't target him? That's about to the level of not watching everyone to say they are the poisoner. So personally that's a really lame reason to believe what he's saying.

 



leatherhat said:

Don't post- suspicious lurker 

Post- suspicious poster 

Fun times 


your last post didn't add anything and with how few posts you have had it madeplayers look upon it with more scrutiny.

Say things you find suspicious or contradictory.

Ask questions I'm sure you have many.

Come up with your own theories.

The big thing is post stuff



I think its strange that Final Fan ignored the claims against baalz (who I haven't made my mind up about). Baalz says it would be stupid to kill on the first night if he was a vigilante, and everybody seems to concur on that fact, but if everyone thinks he wouldn't do it because its a dumb idea than it swings right back to being clever. A bad clown seems to be very suspicious of me- but I suppose he has reason what with my non existing posts. 



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Linkzmax said:

hat already said he won't clarify one way or the other. ABC may have lost his ability for the night, but I don't believe he actually declared what his role is or his ability. Only he and hat know for sure.

What I do know is he is claiming someone targeted him last night, and if he's faking it then eventually this will come to light. Whatever it is, it's a confirmable role and such should never be scum.


How will this eventually come to light? Who can contradict him that someone targeted him? Everoyone at once?

Plus would you try and make the town confirm it by making whoever targeted him come forward?

Also why couldn't it be scum? We don't know the full extend of what he says he can do nor what anyone else is capable of?



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leatherhat said:

1. I think its strange that Final Fan ignored the claims against baalz (who I haven't made my mind up about). 2.  Baalz says it would be stupid to kill on the first night if he was a vigilante, and everybody seems to concur on that fact, but if everyone thinks he wouldn't do it because its a dumb idea than it swings right back to being clever.  3. A bad clown seems to be very suspicious of me- but I suppose he has reason what with my non existing posts. 

1. I agree. I would expect ff to scrutinize him more.

2. people think it's a bad idea for the vig to kill night one because they don't think the vig has enough info to go on. No one thinking it's a good idea doesn't make it clever. It's still a risky thing to do and thus is frowned upon and could very well lead baal getting lynched. Since him saying he knows what he knows made everyone think he was the person who killed vett.

3. You also can be a good diversion for him. He gets people to focus on you not posting much they will ignore the craziness and connections with linkzs and scrutinize them less. Sad thing is it seems to be working.



Linkzmax said:
Wonktonodi said:

I'm so alone..

ok so now what do I do? Do I list the people I think are most likely to have killed me?

Do I work to get someone I supsect of being scum lynched?

Sorry to say guys though that I don't have any info to come forward with. I have no night role.

Assuming this is true, you're not giving up anything by giving us an additional piece of the puzzle right now and claiming your character. I'm not sure how hat handles poison, especially considering when I've seen it there wasn't any notice of it, but it's possible a doctor or specifically a poison doctor, if he(or she, trashleg :P) exists, could save you tonight. Then again it may be better for them to try and save someone that could be power, or simply the claimed confirmable town power ABC.(doctor only, obviously Poison doc should cure the confirmed afflicted)

I'm still trying to figure out why you were chosen to be poisoned. You pretty much outed yourself as vanilla or as mafia, and it doesn't make sense for mafia to poison(yes poison is almost always a mafia role, generally limited and I'd imagine it's one-shot or nonsensically the only kill type here)

there are so many things wrong with this post. Giving my name would at best only help those familiar with FMA while at worst add another layer of wasted discussion.

you keep going on about ABC being conformable town, there is something terribly wrong with that.

I'm sure only you and your team know the reasons.

outing as vanilla or mafia... really now? I said I was vanilla with nothing else to verify it that hardly qualifies as outing. Plus that just seems like an odd option to have me be "outed as".  Since what reason would mafia have to believe me?  They could think I was lying and actually had a role or was third party heck they might have just thought I was a threat.



leatherhat said:

I think its strange that Final Fan ignored the claims against baalz (who I haven't made my mind up about). Baalz says it would be stupid to kill on the first night if he was a vigilante, and everybody seems to concur on that fact, but if everyone thinks he wouldn't do it because its a dumb idea than it swings right back to being clever. A bad clown seems to be very suspicious of me- but I suppose he has reason what with my non existing posts. 

Congratulations, this is your first post today with actual content!  That is why your previous post was stupid.  Sadly it's not enough to convince me to unvote you, yet.  But you're moving in the right direction. 

I have not ignored anything.  I won't hold that mistake against you though as it seems to be common. 



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leatherhat said:

I think its strange that Final Fan ignored the claims against baalz (who I haven't made my mind up about). Baalz says it would be stupid to kill on the first night if he was a vigilante, and everybody seems to concur on that fact, but if everyone thinks he wouldn't do it because its a dumb idea than it swings right back to being clever. A bad clown seems to be very suspicious of me- but I suppose he has reason what with my non existing posts. 

Oh, and no it doesn't.  Vigilante is a protown role.  People are saying that killing night one is dumb because it is too likely to hurt the town.  Assuming that's true, if no one suspected it, and he did it, it would still be dumb and not clever, because it would still be a bad protown move. 



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Too much in need of sleep to properly comment now, but a few things:

Wonk, you're so wrong about me that I'm going to feel bad for you. I'll answer everything you say properly after work tomorrow, but in the meantime stop tunneling. You're looking for incriminating evidence because you had this notion(completely unfounded as you'll come to find out) from day one that I'm scum. Read what I've said today as if it's all true and think on things for a bit.

I don't like this leatherhat lynched that popped up. Trying to get him to be active, as newb scum is usually very easy to spot, is a great idea. Thinking he's a good lynch because he lurked is a bad idea. Sure he could be scum, but it's a lynch that would give very little information.

I still want to look into the Baal thing; however, though I'm very untrusting of him, there's no chance he should be lynched today.

That's it for now, I'll be back in ~14 hours. Town, don't decide to be hasty today and lynch while I'm gone.