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Final-Fan said:
Linkzmax said:

hat already said he won't clarify one way or the other. ABC may have lost his ability for the night, but I don't believe he actually declared what his role is or his ability. Only he and hat know for sure.

What I do know is he is claiming someone targeted him last night, and if he's faking it then eventually this will come to light. Whatever it is, it's a confirmable role and such should never be scum.

What exactly did hat say he wouldn't clarify?  I remember he said we would not be informed whether people were punished, because it would reveal false claims.  But I was referring to your idea that we could repeatedly invoke the punishment. 

I don't remember him saying anything about refusing to comment on how manny times a person can be punished for claiming. 

Oh! About my idea for Baal. Yes that is a good point that I hadn't considered.



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In terms of Leatherhat, I wouldn't rule out possibility of him being mafia out at all. After all, my fist game I wound up being a mafia roleblocker, I think there is as much a chance of him being mafia as anyone else. WIll likely to see his justification for lurking, although my activity hasn't been much better lately at all.



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theprof00 said:

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that's what I was saying, Baal.

Burn looks like a non-standard kill. Poison is a non-standard kill. Hat could be substituting "burned" for "murdered" because of flavor, "poison" is pretty akin to mafia as opposed to "burned".

That is one viewpoint. Then, looking at the flavor we have the poisoner claiming surprise at an explosion, mentioning a night killer, and the quote of "how could you turn on a fellow officer".

So, there are at least two killing sources with separate agendas. 

It can't be 2 mafia kills because of the poisoner's surprise.

It CAN be an SK and Vig, or it can be an SK/VG and a mafia role, or something to that extent.

 

Right now, I believe the mafia is the poisoner, and the 3rd party is the "burner". I don't think an SK/Vig would express surprise.

In my head, it seems to be a Vig who chanced night 1, and a mafia role. Still, we're missing the standard "murder" (I think). Either there is a doc or something like that, or poison IS the mafia kill. That's how I'm leaning. 

I don't think it would make sense to have a kill AND poison, along with a 3rd party, given how few people are playing.

 


sorry but I somehow feel that you are trying to read to much in the flavour, while i still agree that there might be a third party, I think its much more likely that mafia has a special ability which allows them to poison someone (now ignoring completely the flavour)



Also didn't hat make a post saying that name =/= alignment? Or am I tripping balls?



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A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

Obviously Linkz wasn't the one who targeted me if he's still voting for me, I still was able to use my role (to see someone targeted me) so I wasn't role blocked.

This sounds like you're claiming a role that I've seen elsewhere called a Psychic, which knows if someone visits them. It's confirmable because you can't make up someone visiting you or eventually you'd be caught in the lie. And it would be the most horrible scum role ever as it basically outs any town powers, so despite your horrendous play day one I'm buying you as town.

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I'm not pyshic, I just get random info. This night I got who targeted me, I was hoping for info on another player.

So you basically role-claimed now? Do you really think that this is positive for the town if you just dump your role for tonight? Actually it makes me even more suspicious of you...



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back (sorry for delay ^^) and reading (100 posts.... and remembering what happened last week, yay for 4 days forgetting weekends :p).



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So okay... after reading though all the posts I am much more inclined to believe the theory with the sk and mafia-poisoner, I just read profs post, and it felt like he jumped to the conclusion rather fast, but after reading the rest of the post it seems to make much more sense now...



Made a mistake in my last post in the last sentence:

..., but after reading the rest of the POSTS it seems to make much more sense now...



Linkzmax said:
TruckOSaurus said:

About Baal, I don't think he's a Vigilante, he could very well be the firefighter who comes usually with an arsonist in a Mafia game.

Baal said "Unless I'm being fucked over, the burn kill wasn't mafia, but I can't elaborate based on rules to the game :).  As for the poison, I have absolutely no clue what that is."

That's essentially claiming the kill, because if he were merely the preventer of such a kill, he wouldn't be able to say the kill didn't come from mafia, and could outright say there's an arsonist actually.

If he's actually claiming the kill and he's a vigilante, it makes me wanna vote for him for being stupid. How many times do we have to spell out that killing on Night One isn't a good idea for a vigilante?



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Stefl1504 said:

theprof00 said:

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Right now, I believe the mafia is the poisoner, and the 3rd party is the "burner". I don't think an SK/Vig would express surprise.

 


sorry but I somehow feel that you are trying to read to much in the flavour, while i still agree that there might be a third party, I think its much more likely that mafia has a special ability which allows them to poison someone (now ignoring completely the flavour)

how is that different from what I said? Bolded.