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Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:

Of course everyone isn't a townie. You(and prof as well) immediately say we shouldn't lynch if she's modkilled. You say it'd be a bad option for town, which implies you already know she is town. The next sentence even makes it as a statement of fact.

Only prof has said he'd go for a no lynch if Trash is lynched (which I find odd for him, usually he's trying to get someone lynched anyways), I said I'd probably wind up doing a no lynch since the beggining.

Yes, completely ignore the last two sentences, as they aren't the actual damning evidence that you already know her alignment. It doesn't matter that you already wanted to no lynch, it's that you already say it will be a bad option if we're down to 12 players.


I said "A first day lynch between only 12 (trashleg quit) looks like a very bad option for the town". Did I say "IF"? I already established we had 12 players, and I said that lynching looks like a poor option because of it.



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First, we are not at 12 players yet because trashleg was not modkilled, so there is still the option of replacement. Second, you are completely missing the point. Even IF she is modkilled, we don't yet know that she isn't scum, but you stating that it is a bad option to lynch implies that she is town.



Linkzmax said:

First, we are not at 12 players yet because trashleg was not modkilled, so there is still the option of replacement. Second, you are completely missing the point. Even IF she is modkilled, we don't yet know that she isn't scum, but you stating that it is a bad option to lynch implies that she is town.

May I show you why I put trashleg's name there? If I said "They're 12 people  in the game" someone would go have a brilliant idea and say "JOO N3WB U HAZ NAT BEEN READIN OP OR THREAD AGAIN WE HAV 13 PPL, WE HAV 2 HAMMER HAMMAR HIM!"



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Yeah, I'm done with you. You're dodging the point. My vote isn't going to move regardless of the trashleg situation, but I'll move on to trying to catch the other scum.



Linkzmax said:

Yeah, I'm done with you. You're dodging the point. My vote isn't going to move regardless of the trashleg situation, but I'll move on to trying to catch the other scum.




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Hephaestos said:

Unvote

a HoS is probably more appropriate I guess since we're now in the serious business phase of the game.

HoS Wonk

Since I just said I'm suspicious of you, I might as well explain why.

Saying we're in the serious busniess phase implies that the vote wasn't serious when it occured, but the HoS does show you're serious about suspecting Wonk. It's not like Wonk was in any danger of being lynched, so why the downgrade from a vote?



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Wonktonodi said:

1. yes implying it doesn't make it so, he could be a regular scum wanting me to think the game is complex so he can get away with a more complex role claim latter. However in that case he'd be scum and that can't be seen as something to make me happy. Maybe he's vanilla town hoping scum would take him out instead of someone with a actual role(highly doubtful though since he's one they would take out for how good he plays anyway) So pleanty of reasons for me to not be happy with what he's implying.

2. Not all of them have had cops and or docs. I prefer games with more reasoning to find things out (or hiding for the scum) than a bunch of night roles.  Last round there were more scum who would scan as pro town than scum who would scan as scum. So even more luck on top of trying to choose someone who is scumy. The further the game moves from vanilla the more luck would be involed of how night roles cross.


3. I can also be afraid of a vig kill like you thretend a few games ago

getting blocked or having him block someone important

getting bussed

these or who knows what else bombs, jesters, super saints more damn godfathers (I doubt cults at least since Hat hates them) but all these things that make it harder to find connection between people actions and what is happening. That and I rather not be on the wrong side of a game again.

I don't care that you don't think I'm town. I'm hoping I'm not someone who is vanilla town in a game where most people aren't.

 

1. Not true. He could simply be determining it from the current streak of powered up games. He could also be determining it from something Hatmoza said in the signups, or a variety of other reasons. Additionally, he could be saying it to make mafia think there are a lot of roles, or confuse the mafia. You could argue that he's confusing the town with this information, but the same could be said of your own post that the town ISN'T powered. So, yes, I disagree.

2. Your own response perfectly illustrates why powered up games still require skill and work. (And I don't mean this to be an insult to anyone) Just because some of the players here are obsessed over roles and rely on roles, it doesn't make it the right way to play. Look at my round where I was cop. I already knew trucks was scum. I didn't need the cop role. Ask Linkz. I was going to straight out night-kill him, but decided that it would be most efficient to cop him then and there, get the result, and either night kill him next night, or someone else. 

In fact, as time goes on in a powered-up round, and all the pieces begin falling into place, powered-up mafia is just as hard for mafia, if not harder, than in vanilla games. The reason being that mafia can't just claim vanilla or something else, because it might be taken. Roleclaims become nameclaims, providing additional ways to corner mafia. When those pieces fall into place, it takes skill to sift through what is true and what is false. Sorry you see it differently. But maybe now you can feel better? Remember in Linkz round, the pm? "The most important power of all; your vote"

3. You should never be afraid of a vig kill on night one. 

And no, you are changing your story. You said you were afraid of being taken out. Now you say you're afraid of being blocked! And you're afraid of someone important being blocked??!?! You just said above that you prefer a simple town, and now you're afraid that a power could be blocked?



Linkz, you make a really strong argument against being a pussy.

I mean, I'm for day 1 lynches, but a modkill and a lynch! Holy shit man. I feel like a wimp.

I really don't know what to say



theprof00 said:

Linkz, you make a really strong argument against being a pussy.

I mean, I'm for day 1 lynches, but a modkill and a lynch! Holy shit man. I feel like a wimp.

I really don't know what to say

Heh don't get me wrong. I wasn't pointing a finger at you. It irked me a bit because depending on her flip(if it even occurs today) then there may be no reason not to go ahead with a lynch.

If she is modkilled and flips town, then no lynch is certainly the right way to go, but my vote won't be needed for that and so it's staying where it is.