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A Bad Clown said:

I won't tell my role or alignment, I'd perfer to keep it. If I tried to say "I can't say who I am, but I'm not mafia", I'd probably would make me lose my role. Now what side do you believe I'm on?

I think you're confused. You can say "I am town" without losing any possible power that you have. There's still no reason to believe such a claim of course. If you say "I am a *GameEnder*, and at night I can choose to immediately end the game" and you are indeed *GameEnder*, then regardless of your alignment, you would lose that power.(It is yet unclear whether you'd lose it for one night or for the rest of the game)



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Linkzmax said:

A Bad Clown said:

I won't tell my role or alignment, I'd perfer to keep it. If I tried to say "I can't say who I am, but I'm not mafia", I'd probably would make me lose my role. Now what side do you believe I'm on?

I think you're confused. You can say "I am town" without losing any possible power that you have. There's still no reason to believe such a claim of course. If you say "I am a *GameEnder*, and at night I can choose to immediately end the game" and you are indeed *GameEnder*, then regardless of your alignment, you would lose that power.(It is yet unclear whether you'd lose it for one night or for the rest of the game)

Hatzmoza said don't hint at our roles or we lose them, saying "I'm pro town" would hint at part my role. I will not claim either any side, and as I've said I'd prefer to not jepardize my role by saying something simple as "I'm pro town"



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Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

You should know, you're pushing for a first day lynch as a "Free lynch 'for the town' ". A first day lynch between only 12 (trashleg quit) looks like a very bad option for the town. If what I said will happen comes true, the town will be down 4 players instead of 2 or 3. It looks to me like you're saying "Oh great, if I can get someone lynched then the town will be down quite a lot of players by tommorow". You were denying a SK until other players began to ask, and you made it look like that even if we have one, he's likely to go after the mafia. Being almost "Townie Leader" with prof missing and Hatz hosting, you could easily change the mind of other players to vote with you. Who would suspect Linkzmax? He tries so hard to make good posts and he seems honest, he must be protown! I don't like the idea of going for a lynch the first day, and I would have chosen you if forced because of your campaign to secure a first day lynch.

I'm pushing for a lynch because it is the absolute best way to get information. The fact that ending the day without a lynch would likely mean a lost chance at lynching scum in the long run is just a bonus. I wasn't even the one that brought it up.

trashleg didn't quit until after I voted you, and there is still hope of a replacement. It's great for you to tell us that she was town though, thanks for that information.

 


Did I specifically say "A first day lynch between 12 (trashleg quit) townies"? There cannot possibly be 13 townies. How would you assume she's town from that?



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A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

You should know, you're pushing for a first day lynch as a "Free lynch 'for the town' ". A first day lynch between only 12 (trashleg quit) looks like a very bad option for the town. If what I said will happen comes true, the town will be down 4 players instead of 2 or 3. 

trashleg didn't quit until after I voted you, and there is still hope of a replacement. It's great for you to tell us that she was town though, thanks for that information.

Did I specifically say "A first day lynch between 12 (trashleg quit) townies"? There cannot possibly be 13 townies. How would you assume she's town from that?

Of course everyone isn't a townie. You(and prof as well) immediately say we shouldn't lynch if she's modkilled. You say it'd be a bad option for town, which implies you already know she is town. The next sentence even makes it as a statement of fact.



Roleclaim -or announce your ability- at your own risk. You can do so, but you will forfeit the following opportunity to use your ability, if any.

that's Hat's words (from the op)

 

Roleclaim = give the role name

announce your ability = say what you can do

 

Nowhere does it say you cannot give your name or your alignment (wierdly I thought he said no nameclaim but I can't find it again, so I guess I missread the roleclaim or ability part).



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Hephaestos said:

Roleclaim -or announce your ability- at your own risk. You can do so, but you will forfeit the following opportunity to use your ability, if any.

that's Hat's words (from the op)

 

Roleclaim = give the role name

announce your ability = say what you can do

 

Nowhere does it say you cannot give your name or your alignment (wierdly I thought he said no nameclaim but I can't find it again, so I guess I missread the roleclaim or ability part).

I don't see why he'd make roleclaims illegal but make name claims OK, it looks like he's even trying to stop name claims with "role doesn't equal alignment". Your characters name is technically part of the role so I'm not risking saying mine.



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Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:

You should know, you're pushing for a first day lynch as a "Free lynch 'for the town' ". A first day lynch between only 12 (trashleg quit) looks like a very bad option for the town. If what I said will happen comes true, the town will be down 4 players instead of 2 or 3. 

trashleg didn't quit until after I voted you, and there is still hope of a replacement. It's great for you to tell us that she was town though, thanks for that information.

Did I specifically say "A first day lynch between 12 (trashleg quit) townies"? There cannot possibly be 13 townies. How would you assume she's town from that?

Of course everyone isn't a townie. You(and prof as well) immediately say we shouldn't lynch if she's modkilled. You say it'd be a bad option for town, which implies you already know she is town. The next sentence even makes it as a statement of fact.


Only prof has said he'd go for a no lynch if Trash is lynched (which I find odd for him, usually he's trying to get someone lynched anyways), I said I'd probably wind up doing a no lynch since the beggining.



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If trash is modkilled



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I;m going to ask hatz if I can say something and not comprimise my role



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A Bad Clown said:
Linkzmax said:

Of course everyone isn't a townie. You(and prof as well) immediately say we shouldn't lynch if she's modkilled. You say it'd be a bad option for town, which implies you already know she is town. The next sentence even makes it as a statement of fact.

Only prof has said he'd go for a no lynch if Trash is lynched (which I find odd for him, usually he's trying to get someone lynched anyways), I said I'd probably wind up doing a no lynch since the beggining.

Yes, completely ignore the last two sentences, as they aren't the actual damning evidence that you already know her alignment. It doesn't matter that you already wanted to no lynch, it's that you already say it will be a bad option if we're down to 12 players.