Another strike for not paying attention. You're just about as anti-town as one can get.

I first posed this in quote of one of your posts, and then linked to it when I gave reasons for voting for you.

I'm glad nobody else has really mentioned why they have voted or are considering voting for me, because now I can ask for a fresh opinion from you. What makes me an option in your mind? Furthermore, you have voiced absolutely zero suspicions of me, so why say "the only people I'm condsidering to vote are linkz still"?

This sort of confuses me.  Not only are you not explicitly saying you are town, but you are putting out the possibility that you could be mafia.  What was the purpose of this?

You should know, you're pushing for a first day lynch as a "Free lynch 'for the town' ". A first day lynch between only 12 (trashleg quit) looks like a very bad option for the town. If what I said will happen comes true, the town will be down 4 players instead of 2 or 3. It looks to me like you're saying "Oh great, if I can get someone lynched then the town will be down quite a lot of players by tommorow". You were denying a SK until other players began to ask, and you made it look like that even if we have one, he's likely to go after the mafia. Being almost "Townie Leader" with prof missing and Hatz hosting, you could easily change the mind of other players to vote with you. Who would suspect Linkzmax? He tries so hard to make good posts and he seems honest, he must be protown! I don't like the idea of going for a lynch the first day, and I would have chosen you if forced because of your campaign to secure a first day lynch.

I won't tell my role or alignment, I'd perfer to keep it. If I tried to say "I can't say who I am, but I'm not mafia", I'd probably would make me lose my role. Now what side do you believe I'm on?

1. If he's scum,(plain goon or power) you should be happy as town because that implication could be later used as evidence against him. There are plenty of good players, which doesn't put Heph at the top of the list. If he is town,(and btw I should state that I lean scum on him) then implying he is power while only vanilla means he's higher on the target list for a kill(or possible roleblock) which leaves the actual town powers able to do their thing.

2. A well balanced game will still rely on reasoning and skill to find scum. Good reasoning makes town power more likely to have positive results than a random decision. Likewise, scum should have counters to prevent any town power from completely decimating their team.

3. You shouldn't be worried about being taken out by a jester. A bomb is more something a mafiasi would worry about. I don't care to look up a super saint. A godfather is a perfectly good counter to a cop, and brings the game back to reasoning rather than relying on night actions, which you seem to want.

It seems you claimed vanilla, so if you are town(and btw I should state that I lean scum on you too) then you should be making a big fuss so that if you do get on the right leads, scum will have to decide between shutting you up or trying to off the power.

Not really, my only motivation would be to change it away from the current ugly one and that's not a strong one. 

Now go answer Linkz's post. 

I don't really have a vibe one way or another as to what side you are on...and am trying not to get too adament on what I feel about anybody on day 1, because I don't think it leads to much good.

Ninja'd

I'm in a hurry but at first glance that seems like a rambling bunch of hooey, yet at the same time plausibly genuine.

[edit: trimmed quote nest]

Well... I am really speculating with taking that bet... could be something interesting... but you know, I still don't like that you sugested the bet.

I'm pushing for a lynch because it is the absolute best way to get information. The fact that ending the day without a lynch would likely mean a lost chance at lynching scum in the long run is just a bonus. I wasn't even the one that brought it up.

trashleg didn't quit until after I voted you, and there is still hope of a replacement. It's great for you to tell us that she was town though, thanks for that information.

Why do you assume scum can't be lynched day one? If I get scum lynched than the number of kills tonight will probably be the same, but instead of going into day two with no scum down there's at least one out of the way.

Once again, a vig should almost never shoot night one. I don't care what advice you looked up last round as the SK. I also extremely doubt that hat put a no-limit vig in a 13 player game. I also STILL(yes I can use the word still since I already voiced my doubts) doubt there is an SK, and I already gave my stance on the issue:

The only other people to mention SK are Stefl, who thought hat might include one. Baal asked if one would change the "free lynch" strategy, but made no mention of whether he thinks one exists or not. Heph sort of said he thinks a vig is more likely than an SK, in terms of balance.

I never said that the SK would likely go after mafia, in fact if you could comprehend the scenarios I was giving about the existence of an SK it was assuming SK only shot town until endgame is reached. At that point town would HAVE to count on SK hitting mafia or it would lose.

I will openly admit I am trying to take up the leader position, because nothing was getting done. Several have already suspected me, so it's not like just being the most active is allowing me to coast through the game.

In the end your last line is the only one that has merit. I'm going to have to check back to the one round where you were town(here on VGC) to see if your "no lynch day one" stance matches the actions you took, but I'm not faulting Vette or anyone else for it even if I disagree with it.

Btw, you didn't address how you can "still" want to vote me when you never voiced any suspicion of me prior to that post.