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Final-Fan on 19 April 2011
Linkzmax said:
A Bad Clown said:
theprof00 said:

Well, I wouldn't mind the eventuality of lynching a lurker today because we do indeed have a free lynch, and it would create at least some discussion. You complained earlier about how the thread is boring. So why would you vote no lynch? To me, that logic says night would be less boring, or tomorrow would be less boring given the night. I don't agree with those ideas. 

You want to get people to start playing, then MAKE people start playing. Get it?

No lynch has the most votes, I want the day to end so something would happen over the night and we could get a real game going. If we lynch a lurker, we won't be able to even discuss it until the next day. How many people do you want to not even have a chance to play before the next day?

The game is already going. Everyone has a chance to play right now. Of course there won't be any further discussion today about a lynch, but it is something extra to talk about the next day. And unlike a night kill(s) which are only decided by a few unknown people, everyone knows who drives a lynch or tried to derail it.

Well, the obvious thing to suspect of a person who doesn't seem to be paying enough attention to what is being said (even when he replies to it) and thinks all the "real action" happens at night ... is that he's mafia. 

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A Bad Clown on 19 April 2011

As you all can see, final-fan has cleared me by accusing me. Anyone remember "You and ____ are mafia" from the past rounds?



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A Bad Clown on 19 April 2011

Before I go to sleep, I'd also like to say I now suspect that the game hides roles upon death. If we can't roleclaim and we don't have any of the "name=alignment" things I would think that Hatz is trying to make this game hard.



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Final-Fan on 19 April 2011
A Bad Clown said:

As you all can see, final-fan has cleared me by accusing me. Anyone remember "You and ____ are mafia" from the past rounds?

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't see the connection between "you and X are mafia" and my accusation.



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Vetteman94 on 19 April 2011
Hephaestos said:
Vetteman94 said:
theprof00 said:

As I see it there are a couple options.

We can no lynch. This will give time for the lurkers to finish whatever it is that is currently occupying them, give some information, and possibly reinvigorate those out there with power roles. The downside is that we waste a lynch.

We can train on a lurker. This will give incentive for people to play, create discussion, and take advantage of a chance to lynch a mafia. It will also further eventually get to night and have all the benefits of the above.

Other than that, the only people I see as lurking are trash, vette, and stefl.

So, to honor both your request that noone hammer the no lynch, and my own opinions about how day 1 should go, I'm going to:

vote: vette

furthermore, Vette, IIRC you are normally for day 1 lynch. Correct? Why are you being so cautious about linkz, when he is in no danger of being lynched?

I rarely ever vote for a day one lynch,  in fact it may have only happened once in about 20 games.   

yeah but you do vig night one :p (good joke never gets old =)

Yes I do, 



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Wonktonodi on 20 April 2011
theprof00 said:
Wonktonodi said:


You doubting vanilla makes me sad though.

Why does that make you sad?
I believe you said that complexity makes it a harder decision to lynch on day 1. 

So, you are sad that a day 1 won't happen?


for a few reasons, him not thinking vanilla and having a role probably meas he got a non vanilla role and thus would be able to say that it isn't.

because nonvanilla games have much more luck

and because if more people have strong roles I might just get taken out again  victim of an improper balance to the force :P



Wonktonodi on 20 April 2011
theprof00 said:
Vetteman94 said:
theprof00 said:

As I see it there are a couple options.

We can no lynch. This will give time for the lurkers to finish whatever it is that is currently occupying them, give some information, and possibly reinvigorate those out there with power roles. The downside is that we waste a lynch.

We can train on a lurker. This will give incentive for people to play, create discussion, and take advantage of a chance to lynch a mafia. It will also further eventually get to night and have all the benefits of the above.

Other than that, the only people I see as lurking are trash, vette, and stefl.

So, to honor both your request that noone hammer the no lynch, and my own opinions about how day 1 should go, I'm going to:

vote: vette

furthermore, Vette, IIRC you are normally for day 1 lynch. Correct? Why are you being so cautious about linkz, when he is in no danger of being lynched?

I rarely ever vote for a day one lynch,  in fact it may have only happened once in about 20 games.   

I wonder who I'm confusing you with. Who said, "I used to think that that day1 should always be no lynch, but recently I've had a change of heart etc etc."


I think you might be thinking of me



Wonktonodi on 20 April 2011
Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:
Stefl1504 said:

This feels like you already got a very specific target, so I pretty much wonder who it could be.

I'm not sure why you got that impression, nor do I like the tone of it. Nobody so far has said enough to stand out as scum,(or even more scummy than the rest) except for ABC's scumtells, but as I mentioned I have the feeling he is town.

So hopefully there will be more content while I'm at work, plus I'll do a thorough reread.

You said that you will vote for someone the next time you get online, so I thought you already had someone in mind... I was just expecting a vote from you since it I understood what you said as:

Next time I come online I will vote for someone

So I felt like you had a specific target to vote for, or just a random vote, considering you haven't voted up until now, I guess I really misunderstood you... but since you said you want to vote for someone day one: Who is the person you would vote for right now (only one name)


linkz had voted prof and unvoted him

all while never saying why he had voted for prof although saying it wasn't random.org



Linkzmax on 20 April 2011
Stefl1504 said:You said that you will vote for someone the next time you get online, so I thought you already had someone in mind... I was just expecting a vote from you since it I understood what you said as:

Next time I come online I will vote for someone

So I felt like you had a specific target to vote for, or just a random vote, considering you haven't voted up until now, I guess I really misunderstood you... but since you said you want to vote for someone day one: Who is the person you would vote for right now (only one name)

I wouldn't say you misunderstood me, as this is what I said.(twice as you pointed out) I mispoke a bit though, my intention was to have a fresh mind ready to take a good luck over the thread again and see who I think is most likely scum and vote for them. Since my intention wasn't(and isn't) simply to vote, but to actually push for a lynch today, I didn't want to just latch onto the last person I could recall giving me a bad vibe.

Today was much busier than I expected, so I still need a good sleep and a full reread; however, with ABC's dodging my questions I'm ready to vote him with a few reasons for the vote in a following post.

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Linkzmax on 20 April 2011
Stefl1504 said:

I would like to mention that there is always the posibility of the SK hitting one of the mafiosis, so its not necessery that we get into a 3-3-1 situation^^

Of course not, as was discussed in a prior round it's the worst case scenario that gets looked at. It's impossible to consider every scenario given so many variables are unknown, and thus it's really a waste of time.

To put it blunty, anyone that votes No Lynch simply because they think there could be an SK is being an idiot. If you have other reasons to vote that way, or have a strong reason to believe there is an SK and NL is the best option, then by all means go for it.



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