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Hephaestos said:
Final-Fan said:

One thing I'll agree with him on though -- I don't know where the two-shots thing is coming from. 

it came from him saying he's lose it forever... Hat clearly stated you lose the next use of your ability, why would it be different for him?

moreover he now says his ability could be powerfull (which would coincide with Hat making a harsher rule for him), but then why make a point yesterday of saying he never stated that it was powerfull??

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4014904 - Quoting hat once again: "If someone nameclaims, they only forfeit their next chance to use the ability (if any). Not throughout the whole game."

I could be wrong but my interpretation is even a limited shot role would only use the chance to use their ability, but it would not count against them.

Baal's entire claim goes against everything that's been said by the mod. I'm thinking he's mafia and slipped by saying the burn kill wasn't mafia since he knew that. He didn't want to accept the claims of Firefighter or Pyschiatrist offered because someone could actually have either role.

 

And as to your "?" post Heph. When you say that your vote carries a lot of pressure on the receiver I interpret that as you are a double voter. I'm obviously not asking you to confirm with words as that would cause you to lose the ability to do so if you hadn't already on a previous day due to the hint. I see no reason not to confirm you through the lynch, because as I said in the dead thread last round, a double voter isn't any more knowledgeable than a vanilla townie, and thus doubly liable to mislynch as they are to get it right. Meaning it shouldn't paint a bullseye on you.



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Hephaestos said:

Trash as a miller and as an inactive player was a sure misslynch down the road. It's actually better for the town to have had it early as it lets us have more info for future days. Now she was also bulletproof... which is odd as our 2 kills are poison and burning.... this may hint at a possible 3rd killer (likely a 1 shot ability, or we have a great Doc at work (the cats said there were many docs in play no?).

 

Now with this said, I still don't like letherhat's posting. But something else seems evident. With prof gone, Links is getting more comfortable at trying to control the town (the question to all players on prof).

It's possible hat meant UnNightkillable by Bulletproof, but I'd believe a single-use shot from mafia also.

I questioned all the players on prof because I wanted one player's answer on prof.



Stefl1504 said:
A Bad Clown said:

Bringing up the vote history for day 2

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4028441

 

The only thing I've noticed is that prof voted bazaalmon possibly to get rid of an active player

Anyone else notice something?


Just a fun fact, of which I think that it is just coincidence:

When Trash was lynched yesterday the following sentence appeared in the flavour:

After constant mauling, shooting, stabbing, burning, and poisoning Trashleg was left dead in the center of the town square.

So she was killed by 5 different actions... now looking at the people voting (or had a vote on her ;P) for her:

Baalzamon: A Bad Clown > Unvote > Trashleg
Final-Fan:
 Leatherhat > Unvote > Trashleg
Wonktonodi: Linkzmax > A Bad Clown > Unvote > Trashleg
Leatherhat: NotStan > Trashleg
theprof00: Trashleg > Unvote > Baalzamon

After getting so many hints on who the SK could be (Mustang), maybe this is a hint of some kind... (I have to admit I don't know what mauling is but it sound like the german "Maul" which is a word for mouth so I think maybe eaten/chewed?) With prof we got the mauler, then there might be Hawkeye, Ed, Mustang, and whoever the poisoner is ;P

I know that this is a lot of speculation but... hey who knows... and its a fun fact...

"mauling" is essentialy beating up or scratching. It is a fun fact, but it's certainly just a coincidence.



Hephaestos said:

Though the night one flavor tends to go against Wonk being the SK ("In the far distance, wonk, who was being attacked at the same time"), so really there is no logic for him lying on this.

The only role town has to worry about Wonk actually having been is Cop. With trash flipping miller it means(barring a mindfuck by hat) that one exists and if Wonk was it, then mafia could fakeclaim it. It's quite risky depending on how the janitor worked, because if only prof was told Wonk's role, then his scummates shouldn't know the information.



Yeah I also disagree about limited use abilities missing a use when they get stopped by hat for a night. 

leatherhat missed the OP update, suspicious especially when people have been discussing prof's scum flip as fact for a while now. 

I'd expect "bulletproof" to simply mean resistant to one nightkill, but I don't have any justification other than gut feeling. 

prof voting baal yesterday may seem to clear him, but on the other hand prof did that when there wasn't much chance of him actually being lynched IIRC, which can be a scum tactic for disassociating with other scum.  So right now I'm considering it inconclusive, however I may unvote later. 

I am not impressed by TOS's defense, but I'm not prepared to vote him yet. 

I am not impressed by stefl, period. 

I would be pretty damn surprised if Wonk was the cop, and I would be EXTREMELY surprised if the information was sent to the entire mafia and not just the janitor. 



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Linkzmax said:
Hephaestos said:

Trash as a miller and as an inactive player was a sure misslynch down the road. It's actually better for the town to have had it early as it lets us have more info for future days. Now she was also bulletproof... which is odd as our 2 kills are poison and burning.... this may hint at a possible 3rd killer (likely a 1 shot ability, or we have a great Doc at work (the cats said there were many docs in play no?).

 

Now with this said, I still don't like letherhat's posting. But something else seems evident. With prof gone, Links is getting more comfortable at trying to control the town (the question to all players on prof).

It's possible hat meant UnNightkillable by Bulletproof, but I'd believe a single-use shot from mafia also.

I questioned all the players on prof because I wanted one player's answer on prof.

Let me guess... that one player was me?



Stefl1504 said:
Linkzmax said:

It's possible hat meant UnNightkillable by Bulletproof, but I'd believe a single-use shot from mafia also.

I questioned all the players on prof because I wanted one player's answer on prof.

Let me guess... that one player was me?

Possibly.



Seriously, guilty conscience much?



Linkzmax said:

Seriously, guilty conscience much?


Well I thought you would ask me specificaly about it, not everyone, only me. I was quite surprised when you asked everyone... and I tried to answer to satisfy you... well its not like I haven't told you what I was thinking at that time, it was just disturbing that I had the same opinion as you... so I thought about lying... which I did not do in the end...but no I don't have a guilty conscience



Hephaestos said:

Though the night one flavor tends to go against Wonk being the SK ("In the far distance, wonk, who was being attacked at the same time"), so really there is no logic for him lying on this.

I don't believe that Wonk was the SK... he would have given up his night kill if he claimed, but considering that if he thought he was going to die anyway why shouldn't he claim, a further kill wouldn't bring him any profit, the only ones that could be profiting from it, where town or mafia... well okay there could have been a poison doc...