read my post again i said a huge difference, and i didnt talk about marketing or production values. and what quality? call of duty has none.

If Red Steel was on PS3, it'd be called garbage. But when it's on the Wii, it is great and deserve awesome sales but the Wii owners aren't eating that up. Therefore, it's the Wii's fault.

Plus, 80 millions people that bought the Wii are actually aliens and after 4 years, developers/publishers still cannot understand them. You cannot blame them for not putting effort into making Wii games.

You are the one saying 3rd party games don't sell. Marketing and production values are directly correlated with sales. If the Red Steel franchise had the similar production values and marketing (ie similar effort from the developers and publishers) as the Call of Duty franchise, its sales would be vastly superior to its current sales. Agreed?

remove vastly and i agree.

With vastly I mean instead of 0.5 - 1 million per game it would be 2 - 3 million per game. If more 3rd parties would follow suit, nobody would be complaining about 3rd parties on Wii.

In the end, as a publisher, what you get out of it depends on what you put into it.

i know, and i disagree wih those 1 million diffrences.

360 owners have third-party parity, and therefore no cause to bitch about anything. Having been consistently screwed over by third parties, our whining entitlement exists and is valid, an entitlement that only Nintendo-only owners have a right to at this point in time (and a right we've held for more than 15 years)

Though i'll grant this is overreaction because of a non-announcement, never underestimate how far we've been thrown out into the cold

its developers faults.  they are still fanboys, which is a HUGE fault of theirs.

They are still under the mentaility that "GAMERS" have only one console.  Its the casuals taht have only one console.  So when a developer makes a CORE game and releases it on all platforms, of course we are going to buy the best version and ignore the shitty ones.   I dont' know why they are surprised when say a wii port fails.  Why would i buy an inferior game?

hell it doesn't even have to be teh same game.  Conduit 1 & 2 do have competition.  Its called all other fps on the other consoles.  Just cause the wii has a lack of fps doesnt mean that it has no competition and will sell a bajillion.  Us "core gamers" as they like to label us will buy the best games.  We dont' just buy the best games for a console for the sake of buying it, we buy the best games.  If call of duty comes out same time as conduit 2, it doesn't matter if they are different systems they are still competing.  We core gamers have all 3, or at least 2 of the consoles.  And call of duty would be getting our money instead of conduit if call of duty is better.

i hate how they think games on other consoles are not cmopetition with themselves.

*evil laugh*

....but im sure it will be announced in the near future.