| Kasz216 said: Oh, by the way, the official Sony line seems to be... "They didn't shut us down, we didn't have any problems, we were running sporadic scheduled maintence. |
Serious? lol
| Kasz216 said: Oh, by the way, the official Sony line seems to be... "They didn't shut us down, we didn't have any problems, we were running sporadic scheduled maintence. |
Serious? lol
Oblivion86 said:
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Prove anything I said wrong?





thranx said:
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That's what i saw on one article, who knows if it'll change though.

One thing that everyone seems to not mention is that, if Sony wins, it's also illegal to mod your PSP and they can sue you to hell even if you didn't mod it to pirate games.
Doobie_wop said:
Hey, your the one coming in with the gun remarks, I'm just saying that it was a silly use of the term. I also don't like dancing around with analogies, because a real point can never come across right. Like, I can change your knife analogy and say 'You can't give a kid a poisoned tip knife, nudge them into stabbing someone and then expect to get away with it'. It's silly. Your point can only work if the thing that Geogotz did was claimed to be legal, but as of right now, we don't know if it is, so the analogies then start to fall apart. |
Thats what all of his supporters are claiming.
Jailbreak your iphone is legal
jailbreak your ps3 not legal
I think that is the problem for most people here. It should be legal as there is precedent for it already.
| thranx said: Thats what all of his supporters are claiming.
jailbreak your ps3 not legal
I think that is the problem for most people here. It should be legal as there is precedent for it already. |
The difference is that one is a games console and another is a phone. One platform makes most of it's money from hardware, another makes most of it's money from software. One runs an online gaming network, the other doesn't. One has consumers which could potentially have their online experience harmed, the other doesn't. They are two different things, both of them being electronic devices doesn't make them similar platforms.
Also, the law that was passed for phones went through, as far as I know, the law still states that consoles can't be hacked. Until something changes, then analogies are pointless in this case.
Bet with Conegamer and AussieGecko that the PS3 will have more exclusives in 2011 than the Wii or 360... or something.
Games4Fun said:
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I'm not going to get into anything specific other then to say that there are dozen of proven relief organizations over a video game giant, that 90% of Americans would much rather trust, especially when some those orginizations are matching every dollar donated.
Back on topic, if you guys would actually research the matter as to why these retaliation attacks are happening instead of blindly following Sony you can see that what Sony did was 100% wrong, but I'll post part of it again for your benefit.
"Although Hotz denies that his activity in jailbreaking PlayStation 3 firmware violates the DMCA, Sony was awarded a temporary restraining order. Since then, Hotz and Sony have been battling it out in court to determine if the U.S. District Court of Northern California, where Sony wants to try the case, has jurisdiction over Hotz, who resides in New Jersey.
But it goes beyond that. Subsequent to the temporary restraining order, Sony has requested and received access to Hotz's social media accounts, as well the IP addresses of those who accessed his personal Web site. Last month, Sony also gained access to his PayPal account to find out if anyone from Northern California donated money to help him in his alleged hacking efforts."
Doobie_wop said:
The difference is that one is a games console and another is a phone. One platform makes most of it's money from hardware, another makes most of it's money from software. One runs an online gaming network, the other doesn't. One has consumers which could potentially have their online experience harmed, the other doesn't. They are two different things, both of them being electronic devices doesn't make them similar platforms. Also, the law that was passed for phones went through, as far as I know, the law still states that consoles can't be hacked. Until something changes, then analogies are pointless in this case. |
By allowing Linux to be installed on the PS3 they opened themselves to everything that has transpired as a result. You give someone the ability to open source a game console they are going to exploit it and since Sony was the one who provided the tools, they are now going to punish people for using what they were given. Come on, think about it.
| Doobie_wop said: We fight for consumer rights! *Takes down PSN and hurts the service that millions of people use* We only for fight for some consumer rights that appeal to a minority, every other consumer can go fuck themselves! Anon and their fans are hypocrits. |
Some need to be inconvenienced to secure rights for others. Like the people of the Deep South who, while maybe they didn't care too much one way or another about Civil Rights, were inconvenienced by sit-ins at cafeterias because they couldn't get their lunch, this momentary inconvenience will be to the benefit of all, if it works.
If not, it could backfire, making Sony yet more paranoid and defensive

Monster Hunter: pissing me off since 2010.
Oblivion86 said:
I'm not going to get into anything specific other then to say that there are dozen of proven relief organizations over a video game giant, that 90% of Americans would much rather trust, especially when some those orginizations are matching every dollar donated. "Although Hotz denies that his activity in jailbreaking PlayStation 3 firmware violates the DMCA, Sony was awarded a temporary restraining order. Since then, Hotz and Sony have been battling it out in court to determine if the U.S. District Court of Northern California, where Sony wants to try the case, has jurisdiction over Hotz, who resides in New Jersey. But it goes beyond that. Subsequent to the temporary restraining order, Sony has requested and received access to Hotz's social media accounts, as well the IP addresses of those who accessed his personal Web site. Last month, Sony also gained access to his PayPal account to find out if anyone from Northern California donated money to help him in his alleged hacking efforts." |
But that does not prove anything I said as wrong, which is my only problem with what you posted after quoting me. There are things to consider in any given situation and while I can agree there are plenty of legit places to donate money and it far from put some huge dent in relief funds, but it did in fact disrupt it. Plenty of people have donated through PSN because they trust it just the same as I trusted my college fundrasier board.




