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DirtyP2002 said:
Tigerlure said:
Doobie_wop said:
selnor said:
The_God_of_War said:

The old "MS leaves everything to the last minute" myth again. I hope we get Alan Wake 2.

Myths usually aren't proven every year. I would have thought after the last 5 years people know M$ dont upset their fans.

Alan Wake was announced in 2005 at E3, it released in 2010.

Fable 2 was announced in 2006 and was then released in 2008.

Lost Odyssey was shown at TGS 06 and was released in 2008

Blue Dragon was announced in Feburary of 05 and was then released later in December 06.

Mass Effect was announced in 2005 and released in 2007.

Halo Reach was announced in June of 2009 and it was released over a year later in September of 2010.

Halo 3 was announced in June of 2006 and released over a year later in 2007.

Too Human for the 360 was announced in 2005 and was released in 2008.

Spinter Cell: Conviction was announced in 2007 and was released in 2010.

Fable 3 was announced in August in 2009 and was released over a year later in October in 2010.

Mass Effect 2 was released a year after it's announcement.

Gears of War 3 was announced in April of 2010 and it's being released well over a year later in September of 2011.

I can probably find more, but basically, it's a myth. Just because Microsoft have the announcement and then release it shortly after a few times (Forza 3, Gears 2, Viva Pinata), it doesn't mean that the vast majority of their releases aren't announced a full year or more before they release.


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Actually what Sony is doing now is playing catch-up due to their lackluster holiday 2010 lineup.


Because MS had a great exclusive holiday 2010 line up? Fable III Kinect  (and if you want to do some spin you can add the in the summer released Halo Reach)    Even with halo Reach included this is an ok holiday at best...  Sure with Sony only releasing GT 5 and some PS2 collections it is for sure not doing better...But with DC Universe Online, Little Big Planet 2, Hyperdimension Neptune, Killzone 3, Yakuza 4, some move games, Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel, MotorStorm: Apocalypse,    and etc...Sony did not only catch up with MS's holiday 2010 line up..They striked it down, shit on it and is laughing with it;..

People like you make me ashamed of being with the X360 family..Grown up like the rest of the X360 fans did and hope MS is going to announce some good stuff..


 



 

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DirtyP2002 said:
Tigerlure said:
Doobie_wop said:
selnor said:
The_God_of_War said:

The old "MS leaves everything to the last minute" myth again. I hope we get Alan Wake 2.

Myths usually aren't proven every year. I would have thought after the last 5 years people know M$ dont upset their fans.

Alan Wake was announced in 2005 at E3, it released in 2010.

Fable 2 was announced in 2006 and was then released in 2008.

Lost Odyssey was shown at TGS 06 and was released in 2008

Blue Dragon was announced in Feburary of 05 and was then released later in December 06.

Mass Effect was announced in 2005 and released in 2007.

Halo Reach was announced in June of 2009 and it was released over a year later in September of 2010.

Halo 3 was announced in June of 2006 and released over a year later in 2007.

Too Human for the 360 was announced in 2005 and was released in 2008.

Spinter Cell: Conviction was announced in 2007 and was released in 2010.

Fable 3 was announced in August in 2009 and was released over a year later in October in 2010.

Mass Effect 2 was released a year after it's announcement.

Gears of War 3 was announced in April of 2010 and it's being released well over a year later in September of 2011.

I can probably find more, but basically, it's a myth. Just because Microsoft have the announcement and then release it shortly after a few times (Forza 3, Gears 2, Viva Pinata), it doesn't mean that the vast majority of their releases aren't announced a full year or more before they release.


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are ypu guys really that shortsighted?

  • Kinect Sports announced June 2010, released November 2010
  • Kinectimals same
  • Dance Central same
  • YourShape same
  • Forza Motorsport announced June 2009 released October 2009
  • Left 4 Dead 2 announced June 2009 released November 2009
  • Rise of Nightmares announced September 2010 release Summer 2011 (less than a year)

I am sooo tired of all this "OMG MS has No GamEZzZz for 2011". I don't even get why people are only talking about calender years. Microsoft had a shitload exclusive games from September to december last year. Heck, they are still getting DLC and patches.

Actually what Sony is doing now is playing catch-up due to their lackluster holiday 2010 lineup.

And everytime a multiplat games sells better on the 360 like Dragon Age II, Homefront, Crysis 2 or Bulletstorm people try to convince me that PS3 users are saving their money for [random exclusive game]. I just don't get it.

BTT:

I think we will see 2 Rare games, 1 Lionhead game, 1 343 game and probably some games made by independent developers like Remedy, Crytek or whatever.


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Being in 3rd place never felt so good

zgamer5 said:
daroamer said:

 

motorstorm apocalypse, ratchet and clank.

oh and twisted metal is coming out in 2011. 





Being in 3rd place never felt so good

LordMatrix said:
homer said:
selnor said:
The_God_of_War said:
selnor said:
The_God_of_War said:

The old "MS leaves everything to the last minute" myth again. I hope we get Alan Wake 2.

Myths usually aren't proven every year. I would have thought after the last 5 years people know M$ dont upset their fans.


Many of their fans seemed upset after 2010's Kinect centric E3.

Um what?

2010 saw Alan Wake, Metro 2033, Mass Effect 2, Fable 3 and Halo Reach. Before you even get to Kinects launch.

The only ones so called disappointed were those who wanted to use E3 2010 as a clause as to M$ no longer caring for the hardcore.

I cant wait for this E3. It's gonna be a laugh when people for the 6th year running realise M$ again have a feine exclusive lineup as they do every year.

ME2,Fable 3, and Metro 2033 are not exclusives. It is 4 months into 2011(1/3 of the year), and nothing has changed. I fully expect MS to announce something at e3, that will release this year, but do not expect a lot, because you may get burned. You will have over 4 high quality games, but expect one or two to be multiplat(not that it matters, because a quality game is a quality game no matter the platforms it is available on)

ME2 is no longer exclusive but as far as console exclusives are concerned Fable 3 and Metro 2033 are. Its called the console wars for a reason. Console gamers don`t give a rats about PC. The battle is between PS3/X360/Wii...everyone knows this.

Exactly.  The only people who ever bring this up are hardcore only Sony supporters.  Everyone else agrees that console exlusive is still and exclusive.  PC is an entirely different platform and market and isn't even in the same generation as consoles due to it being in its own ever evolving cycle.  They aren't comparable at all.

Even huge PS3 supporters like CGI-Quality agree that a console exclusive is still an exclusive, but some people try to use that as ammunition.   The ironic thing is that many of these people who go around claiming anything that appears on PC isn't an exclusive are the same exact people who claim DC Universe Online and Final Fantasy XIV are exclusives.



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zgamer5 said:
daroamer said:
osamanobama said:
daroamer said:
Doobie_wop said:
FattyDingDong said:

Me and u are probably the only 360 supporters on this website.

This is also another myth that 360 fans seem to enjoy throwing around. There are plenty of 360 fans on this site, I've noticed that the majority of new members (like yourself) are 360 fans. Do you know why there are barely any threads about the 360? Because nothing is happening, so there are going to be less 360 related posts. The 360 isn't dominating in sales, there is no multi-million dollar law suit battle going on between them and a hacker, there are no exclusives that have been released, none of their developers have been talking and there is just nothing to really argue or talk about. The majority of new news on the 360 has been about the Kinect and not everyone cares or are interested in Kinect.

When the 360 was outselling everyone world wide for a few months, when Halo: Reach came out, when Rare was cutting art staff, when the TGS Kinect were announced and when Crysis 2 comparisons were released, the 360 fans came out of the woodwork and then you notice how many members there are, but they just have nothing of interest to post about mot of the time.

You can only talk about the 'possible' exclusives that are coming up so many times until it becomes boring. This site has more 360 fans than we think, which is something that I've realised by looking in the Crysis 2 comparison threads and the Live vs PSN threads. Get over it.

It's not that there are no 360 fans on this board, it's just that they are heavily outnumbered by Playstation fans and it shows in most of the threads, no matter which section of the forums you are in.

On a different topic not related to the above post, let's not forget that one of the reasons the PS3 has so many exclusives in the early part of this year is because of games being delayed from holiday 2010.

there were 2

LBP and Socom (which was september, not holiday)

Yeah, so take those 2 off and what are the big AAA Sony exclusives for 2011?

Killzone 3

Uncharted 3

Resistance 3

Infamous 2

Possibles:

Last Guardian

Twisted Metal

Great lineup for sure, but I think Microsoft will end up matching them, especially when it comes to sales. 

Personally the only one I'll be playing out of those is Last Guardian and out of the MS exclusives we know about for this year (aside from Kinect titles) it'll be Forza 4.  The rest of my purchases will be multi-plats (Skyrim, ME3).

I know Microsoft doesn't always wait until E3 to show their hand, but I think this year will be one of those years since I think they really wanted to focus on Kinect during the second half of last year.  I really do expect them to have a big E3 this year.

 

motorstorm apocalypse, ratchet and clank.

oh and twisted metal is coming out in 2011. 


Motorstorm is not in the same league as the rest of those games, sorry.  I also included Twisted Metal it just doesn't have a firm release date.



define what league you are talking about, because for this gen, mainstream wise, to say that Motorstorm isnt in the same league as The Last Guardian  and Twisted metal seems odd. 

oh sorry this seems to be a thread about what microsoft may have in the dark at E3 who'd a thunk!

on topic i'd say besides the stuff in the OP we see gears kinect finally, we see some tech displays of whatever Lionhead is working on and Halo something or other. Along with that Micro will show off 3rd party games for the first time and have exclusive or atleast release ahead of time dlc for these 3rd party games ( COD, ME3,???)



 

Lostplanet22 said:
DirtyP2002 said:
Tigerlure said:
Doobie_wop said:
selnor said:
The_God_of_War said:

The old "MS leaves everything to the last minute" myth again. I hope we get Alan Wake 2.

Myths usually aren't proven every year. I would have thought after the last 5 years people know M$ dont upset their fans.

Alan Wake was announced in 2005 at E3, it released in 2010.

Fable 2 was announced in 2006 and was then released in 2008.

Lost Odyssey was shown at TGS 06 and was released in 2008

Blue Dragon was announced in Feburary of 05 and was then released later in December 06.

Mass Effect was announced in 2005 and released in 2007.

Halo Reach was announced in June of 2009 and it was released over a year later in September of 2010.

Halo 3 was announced in June of 2006 and released over a year later in 2007.

Too Human for the 360 was announced in 2005 and was released in 2008.

Spinter Cell: Conviction was announced in 2007 and was released in 2010.

Fable 3 was announced in August in 2009 and was released over a year later in October in 2010.

Mass Effect 2 was released a year after it's announcement.

Gears of War 3 was announced in April of 2010 and it's being released well over a year later in September of 2011.

I can probably find more, but basically, it's a myth. Just because Microsoft have the announcement and then release it shortly after a few times (Forza 3, Gears 2, Viva Pinata), it doesn't mean that the vast majority of their releases aren't announced a full year or more before they release.


/thread

Actually what Sony is doing now is playing catch-up due to their lackluster holiday 2010 lineup.


Because MS had a great exclusive holiday 2010 line up? Fable III Kinect  (and if you want to do some spin you can add the in the summer released Halo Reach)    Even with halo Reach included this is an ok holiday at best...  Sure with Sony only releasing GT 5 and some PS2 collections it is for sure not doing better...But with DC Universe Online, Little Big Planet 2, Hyperdimension Neptune, Killzone 3, Yakuza 4, some move games, Ar tonelico Qoga: Knell of Ar Ciel, MotorStorm: Apocalypse,    and etc...Sony did not only catch up with MS's holiday 2010 line up..They striked it down, shit on it and is laughing with it;..

People like you make me ashamed of being with the X360 family..Grown up like the rest of the X360 fans did and hope MS is going to announce some good stuff..


 


They released the best selling exclusive game on their platform, the fastest selling gadget in history on this spinning marble and a 4 million exclusive... So that is an Okay lineup... Got it.

I am not a hardcore fanboy. I do play the PS3, I do play the PC, but I do prefer the 360. That's it.

People just forget that about 16 exclusive games were released on the Xbox 360 in the past 7 months.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

BenVTrigger said:
Munkeh111 said:
selnor said:

Everyone seems to forget that this year is Huge third party year.

LOL at any RPG to go up against Skyrim and Mass Effect 3 both out this year.

Also L.A Noire is out during E3 and we also have Battlefield 3. I think it would be rediculous for anymore than 3 or 4 first party titles to come out this year. The year is looking great for any consoles, not really because of first party titles.

Mass Effect 3, Skyrim, UC3, Forza 4 and Gears 3 will be the top selling titles this year. Not in that order though. Third party offerings this year are pure golden.

That's why you release Killzone 3, Motorstorm, inFamous 2 and SOCOM 4 early, and save Uncharted 3, Resistance and Ratchet for Christmas!

The thing is 3rd party games will keep most Xbox fans happy, but they are not going to be selling Xboxes, there is still plenty of room for 1st party games as well as 3rd party games


to be honest I think the sheer number of PS3 exclusives this year is going to cannebalize sales.  LittleBigPlanet 2 is already slowing down big time and Killzone 3 isn't matching Killzone 2's pace.  With the sheer number of excellent 3rd party games available as well it kind of makes titles get drowned.  Not that I'm complaining though its given me plenty of stuff to play!

And for the record 3rd party games do sell Xboxs.  And PS3's.


Thats because they were both released right after the holidays. Sales usually drop a lot in that time of year. But you bet your ass Uncharted 3 will sell 1000k on launch, thats for sure



Slimebeast said:

Please stop using the $ Selnor. I know you don't mean anything bad with it but people don't read it that way.

Anyway, I'm extremely worried about the Xbox exclusive lineup this year and I'm firmly convinced Kingdoms won't come out in 2011. We simply haven't seen anything from it and it seems to be quite a big of a project.


Oh please every company has a $ in their name. Micro$oft, $ony, N$ntendo, App$e, Goog$e, Va$ve, etc. lol



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