staticneuron, seeing someone mention xenogears and final fantasy tactics is enough to bring a tear to my eye ;)

You like what you like, but don't diss what ya don't like. ;)

I can't stand excess gore in my games, it just makes me want to walk away in disgust. When I did LAN parties everyone thought it was odd I'd turn gore right off in my games. ;) I don't deal well with horror too well either. :-/ Don't ask me how I got into Berserk or Hellsing, I haven't figured it out myself. :o

I'm also not bothered by bright and colorful games, like any other game, if I find it entertaining, then that's all there is to it.

its always good when more mature titles comes to Nintendo console. Nintendo consoles is not just for kids but Nintendo favours the younger players. Not many 18+ games come to Nintendo consoles. Its good that they are changing strategy I was really happy when I heard about Man hunt 2 was coming to Wii.

The movie is short, but pretty sweet. By putting it on rails, they can get some pretty intense action going - and really up the scare value. I'll almost certainly get it - looks more accessible for the non-gamers in my house (if they can handle the "horror" value ;).

I know what you mean, WiiGirl. I'm effing sick of having to argue this.  The Wii is no LESS than the PS3 and Xbox (except the very slight and insinificance of the graphics that mean nothing).  The Wii the buttons like Xbox360 and PS3, and it also has a classic controller, but its big thing is what is ALSO has, and thats the motion sensitivity.  This has already proven that not only can it make alot of simple games fun, but can actually make hardcore games MORE hardcore. Look at Godfather for the best example.

As time moves on, more sandbox games and other so called "hardcore" games that werent for the Cube are going to be put on the Wii. There is no reason any company would not want to after seeing how Godfather did. Also, with the Wii being the most sold console (once Nintendo releases enough to pass that MS console) and the cheapest console to make games for, why wouldnt any company not want to try their hand at it.  The Wii will soon lose its kiddy image (which is really just an image by delusional sony boys), starting when the next GTA game gets ported onto the Wii. Once GTA does and it succeeds (which there is no doubt it will, possibly do even better than PS3 and xbox360) there will be no stoping the rush of all 3rd party games to the Wii.

Ok you say the Wii is no les than the 360. If you mean "fun" wise great everyone has thier own taste. I too think the Wii is Fun. Nintendo does gear there games toward a diverse audience not "hardcore gamers",But saying there is a slight insignificance of the Graphics.... Thats like a 360 owner arguing that their motion sensing is only slightly less responsive than the Wii mote(yes i know i said the 360 ).Anyway all I was trying to say is Nintendo wants that system to appeal to everyone. That will be hard to market as a System for everyone and "hardcore" gamers too. My main point is why would you have to feel like you have to defend it from being a Kid console honestly look around Kids know how to have fun. The Wii in the End is just NOT the same as a PS3 or a 360 not in the same class. Not a lower or higher class just different,and maybe not what is considered "next-Gen" as the tech isn't a new level (significantly above PS2 or X-box).To say Graphics mean nothing though thats kinda harsh and maybe misguided I know alot of people that Graphics matter ALOT to. It is great that if you do not care about a significant graphic a speed and storage upgrade to your game console and online isn't that big a deal for you. A wii is a great machine for you and many more. Lastly WiiGirl76 if all you nought on the PS2 wereRPG's you missed alot of GREAT games. Hopethepunctuation didn't offend anyone this time oops:P

 Well in the 1980s, it would get a cheesy Saturday morning, or synidcated, cartoon, which would sanitize the action and shoehorn some educational aspects (such as Rambo).

Well... Is not hard core gamers included in "everyone?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't everyone... EVERYONE? Wii is made to target everyone, and it does.  I am a hardcore gamer. I like every type of game and can be critical of any of them, and I must say, the Wii is for hardcore gamers, along with many other gamers.

Just because the Wii is the only console with pure fun games on it (games that have no real meaning or anything, but simply fun)  doesnt mean its not also for hardcore gamers. I am a huge hardcore gamer and must say, I love games like warioware and wii sports/play (especially that tank game on wii play with a partner. thats great).  Games like CoD, MoH, Godfather, excite truck, Madden (especially madden), and all the sports games are just as hardcore, and in manys opinion (such as mine) more hardcore as the other consoles versions. Also possible future Wii games like GTA will be just as good on the Wii, if not better (see godfather). 

 How can the Wii not be considered a next gen when it made the biggest leap of any of the consoles?  How is it not more hardcore when it actually can put you into a game if you dont let pride stop you? I'll defend that the Wii is a hardcore gamers console to the end not just because it is, but because when I say the Wii is the only console I intend to get rather games like GTA come out for it or not, and then let someone say its not a hardcore gamers console, thats like saying I'm not a hardcore gamer. On the contrary, I'm a huge hardcore gamer who likes any type a game and probably has less of a life than anyone here. Video games are my life, as pathetic as that may be, I dont give a shit.

That sums it all up what I meant, finally someone who understands my point as well.  Seems like it we're made for the job to promote the real meaning of the WII

Here's a game I hope the hardcore can appreciate on the Wii: http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/previewArt.cfm?artid=13327

I think this will be the first Resident Evil game I ever buy.  Also the first RE game I play for more than 5 minutes.