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OP wont take quotes from the article then i will

Digitalfoundry

There's little doubt that the Xbox 360 is the cleaner, crisper experience and for the most part it commands a small but significant frame-rate advantage and fewer little glitches; especially outside of combat scenarios, the game just seems to run that much more smoothly.

However, there are parts of the game that seem to be brutally unoptimised, bringing the performance level crashing down to the point where the afflicted sections become almost unplayable - a variable 15-20FPS update in an intense fire-fight is hugely disorientating, and this makes Crysis 2 one of the most inconsistent performers released in recent times.In these situations, it seems that it is the Xbox 360 version that has the most difficulties, though there's no mistaking that both platforms seem to lag badly in much the same areas. Interestingly, the really poor-performing sections do seem isolated to specific areas in the campaign, and from the hive infiltration level onwards things seemed to improve, but it's quite difficult to believe that those areas of the game got through QA without someone, somewhere raising the red flag.

 


^thats pretty poor performance for a game a small handful claim best grafix ever!

Performance may not be the best out there but visually and technically Crysis 2 is in league of its own

yep it couldnt get into the big leagues where U2, KZ, and GOW3 reside

Crysis 2 isnt entirely closed quarters and fixed camera now is it?

but it is sub-HD

perhaps its not as technically advanced as you believe.

the games not even in HD.

it also cant mantain a steady frame rate, gets torn frames, and has texture/ object pop-in.

something none of the the games i mentioned have



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So basically, what the review is saying that...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

IGN fucked up big time...

Dear Lawd...



kowenicki said:

 

In short, then, Xbox 360 benefits from a 25 per cent resolution boost over the PlayStation 3 version of the game. That's a pretty stark statistic, and while it is true that the action generally looks clearer and not quite so blurred on the Xbox 360, it's also the case that when the game is in full flow, the amount of post-processing effects in play, including camera and object-based motion blur, tends to equalise the visuals somewhat. Quite why there is a resolution difference at all is intriguing. Having fewer pixels to process obviously helps reduce fill-rate concerns, but curiously, notes left within the config files suggest that RAM was also a consideration: apparently 14MB of memory is saved by dropping res (which seems to suggest a hell of a lot of internal buffers being used to compose each frame).

There's little doubt that the Xbox 360 is the cleaner, crisper experience and for the most part it commands a small but significant frame-rate advantage and fewer little glitches; especially outside of combat scenarios, the game just seems to run that much more smoothly. However, there are parts of the game that seem to be brutally unoptimised, bringing the performance level crashing down to the point where the afflicted sections become almost unplayable - a variable 15-20FPS update in an intense fire-fight is hugely disorientating, and this makes Crysis 2 one of the most inconsistent performers released in recent times.

In these situations, it seems that it is the Xbox 360 version that has the most difficulties, though there's no mistaking that both platforms seem to lag badly in much the same areas. Interestingly, the really poor-performing sections do seem isolated to specific areas in the campaign, and from the hive infiltration level onwards things seemed to improve, but it's quite difficult to believe that those areas of the game got through QA without someone, somewhere raising the red flag.

The key to progression through these troublesome areas is to employ stealth rather than a balls-out frontal assault, but in a game that places so much weight on presenting different tactical strategies for potential flashpoints, it's disappointing that it's technical issues that are effectively narrowing down the available options. In conclusion, it's fair to say that Crytek has done enough to prove that Crysis can run on consoles - either of them in fact - and certainly the issues the game has in terms of bizarre glitches, performance drops, geometry pop-in and such-like are hardly exclusive to one platform. On balance, 360 has the edge in terms of visuals and general performance, but PS3 more than holds its own, bettering the Microsoft platform in some areas.

 

The crucial thing is that both are phenomenally attractive games, producing effects quite different and in many ways more advanced than anything we've seen elsewhere on console. We all wanted Crysis on console to be an event, a showcase release: by and large, Crytek has delivered, and those cutting edge visuals are backed by a truly impressive game design. However, there's the nagging feeling that a few more months in development could perhaps have ironed out the issues both versions of the game have..

 

Come on, lets call this right.... 360 slightly edges it.

Read that without tinted specs of either hue and "overall" the 360 just about wins.  No that it matter, its good for both, it seems we have a new king in thew FPS genre visual stakes.  At times sure it dropsthe ball a bit but that is because it is trying to achieve a higher standard... 

So the best looking FPS thus far.... is a multiplat.  hoorah.


so you highlighted the positive points said for 360 version and claim it a victory?.....great!

now seriously cmon DF its self is saying both version excels in different areas how is that a "victory" for any of the versions? TBH with you I would call it a tie.



Ping_ii said:
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so you highlighted the positive points said for 360 version and claim it a victory?.....great!

i believe Kowenicki and Nsanity now are the only ones still claiming its the best graphical game.



osamanobama said:
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so you highlighted the positive points said for 360 version and claim it a victory?.....great!

i believe Kowenicki and Nsanity now are the only ones still claiming its the best graphical game.

That video i posted pretty much sums up you and rest of your buddies.



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"Indeed, other elements of the visual make-up of the game do their job in helping to bridge the difference. For example, check out this shot: texture filtering on the tarmac looks better on the PS3 - base resolution isn't always the paramount element in image quality, something we touched upon in the Alan Wake sub-HD debate."

The reality is that Crytek has done an impressive job in matching the engine spec across both platforms, and even where its own config files suggest substantial differences (for example in the rendering of water effects, where the PS3 setting seems to dominate 360's),

"The implementation of shadow on the two versions also exhibits some interesting, though minor, differences. Again, there seems to be an off-set issue on the PS3 version which occasionally sees sections of some shadows disappear back the artwork (something we saw on the Xbox 360 of Final Fantasy XIII), however, close up, it's clear that shadows are somewhat more blocky and unattractive on the Microsoft console."

 

"While the engine analysis based on like-for-like footage suggests an advantage to the Xbox 360 version of Crysis 2, as we can see in these extensive tests, performance can be very, very variable and the small variations in frame-rate we see previously give way to some much bigger differences, depending on the level of action on-screen. The unavoidable conclusion we came to is that when frame-rate does crash in those affected areas, it's actually Crysis 2 on PS3 that holds up better."

 

see how the hell can anyone claim my console version wins? it seems like if ps3 does a better job in one area 360 backfires by doing better in the other area.



Nsanity said:
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kowenicki said:

 



so you highlighted the positive points said for 360 version and claim it a victory?.....great!

i believe Kowenicki and Nsanity now are the only ones still claiming its the best graphical game.

That video i posted pretty much sums up you and rest of your buddies.

so you point to some random youtube guy (i didnt watch the whole video it was too long) saying crysis looks the best, to try to prove your point. 

both DF and LoT disagrees with you. the games not even in HD for crying out loud. yet you still cling to what ign said, and go with it. face the facts it a great/terrific looking game but not the best.

and this sums up people like you



osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
Ping_ii said:
kowenicki said:

 



so you highlighted the positive points said for 360 version and claim it a victory?.....great!

i believe Kowenicki and Nsanity now are the only ones still claiming its the best graphical game.

That video i posted pretty much sums up you and rest of your buddies.

so point to some random youtube guy (i didnt watch the whole video it was too long) saying crysis looks the best, to try to prove your point. 

both DF and LoT disagrees with you. the games not even in HD for crying out loud. yet you still cling to what ign said, and go with it. face the facts it a great/terrific looking game but not the best.

and this sums up people like you

 

IGN are not the only site and DF disagrees witn me? your delusional and posting picture of handicapped kid proves your only scumbag. 



Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
Nsanity said:
osamanobama said:
Ping_ii said:
kowenicki said:

 



so you highlighted the positive points said for 360 version and claim it a victory?.....great!

i believe Kowenicki and Nsanity now are the only ones still claiming its the best graphical game.

That video i posted pretty much sums up you and rest of your buddies.

so point to some random youtube guy (i didnt watch the whole video it was too long) saying crysis looks the best, to try to prove your point. 

both DF and LoT disagrees with you. the games not even in HD for crying out loud. yet you still cling to what ign said, and go with it. face the facts it a great/terrific looking game but not the best.

and this sums up people like you

 

IGN are not the only site and DF disagrees witn me? your delusional and posting picture of handicapped kid proves your only scumbag. 

ign is pretty much the only major site that says it best (there are like 5 other minor ones saying it too)

another major site, gamespot says it very buggy and inconsistant, not the best.

but it doesnt matter none of those sites have official analysis like DF and LoT, which you blissfully ignore.

and how am i delusional, im not the one claiming a game not even in HD is the best in graphics. thats you bud



mantlepiecek said:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-crysis2-face-off

Couple of things, here.

No. 1, Richard agrees that Killzone 3 and Motorstorm Apocalypse are the best 3D games out there, even better than Crysis 2.

No. 2:

Both versions are supposedly the same, 360 seems to run at 1152x720. The PS3 version, however runs at 1024 x 720 but the differences are minor, due to blur effects.

The PS3 version seems to have better 3D effects from what I have read. I maybe wrong so you may want to check it out.

The PS3 version maintains its frame rate throughout the whole game perfectly even though its lower than the 360 version. The 360 version however has frame-rate going below 20 fps in some scenes. What this means is that the PS3 version operates more consistently then the 360 version, but the 360 version seems to hit 30 fps a lot more.

There is no screen tearing visible on either consoles.

Which is why he seemed to think that either versions are equally good.

to be honest you should say its less variable than the xbox and doesnt change as much, but it still does drop. the xbox version frame rate changes more often.

also there is slight frame tearing on the xbox version but nothing very significant