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superchunk said:
twesterm said:

A note about community colleges-- not all colleges accept community college credits.

If that is your plan, make sure the college you eventually want to attend will accept those classes that you took at the community college.

Also, I wouldn't worry about being on level with other students in your first few years.  You're there to learn just like everybody else and you'll start out in the same zero prior knowledge classes as everyone else.  By the end of those freshman and sophomore classes, you'll be on equal playing fields.

This is why I said go to the one in the same city as the university you want to go to. They'll always have a transfer program.


That's not even always true. 

If you go to a state school, then more than likely anything close will transfer.  If you go to a private school, then they're going to be picky about what they accept.  I know TCU, Rice, and SMU absolutely do not take everything in the Dallas and Housten areas.



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snakenobi said:
superchunk said:
snakenobi said:
 

but did you know anything about computer programmes or anything related to it technically before going to college?


No. I had zero experience in programming when I started.


and algorithms?

and were you very good at maths or just like me,study for exams and then forget most of it

i pick up very fast but i don't consistantly do maths and other stuff


You'll learn those in class, like I've said several times you go to class to learn these things, don't worry so much about it. 



snakenobi said:
superchunk said:
snakenobi said:
 

but did you know anything about computer programmes or anything related to it technically before going to college?


No. I had zero experience in programming when I started.


and algorithms?

and were you very good at maths or just like me,study for exams and then forget most of it

i pick up very fast but i don't consistantly do maths and other stuff

Had no algorithms experience (personally hated those classes), but I am good at math. Only class that was hard was Calc 2. But that was the last regular math class. Then I had a couple algorithms classes.



snakenobi said:
superchunk said:
snakenobi said:
 

but did you know anything about computer programmes or anything related to it technically before going to college?


No. I had zero experience in programming when I started.


and algorithms?

and were you very good at maths or just like me,study for exams and then forget most of it

i pick up very fast but i don't consistantly do maths and other stuff

When I entered uni I had barely any knowledge of programming (only had a very basic knowledge of Pascal), didn't know any algorithm, and what's more, never had used Linux. Now 3/4 years later I consider I have a good handle of C and C++ and I think I can learn any other language easily in a few days because I understand how everything works (I'd just need to learn the syntaxis), I know all the typically used algorithms and Linux is my second home.

What I mean, is, seriously, they teach you everything there, uni is not a place for Zuckerbergs to humilliate everyone, it's for normal people to gain knowledge, you're not supposed to know those things before you enter (if you do, more power to you), that's what uni is for, to learn. If everyone knew programming beforehand they'd have nothing to teach. You'll be fine




twesterm said:
superchunk said:
twesterm said:

A note about community colleges-- not all colleges accept community college credits.

If that is your plan, make sure the college you eventually want to attend will accept those classes that you took at the community college.

Also, I wouldn't worry about being on level with other students in your first few years.  You're there to learn just like everybody else and you'll start out in the same zero prior knowledge classes as everyone else.  By the end of those freshman and sophomore classes, you'll be on equal playing fields.

This is why I said go to the one in the same city as the university you want to go to. They'll always have a transfer program.


That's not even always true. 

If you go to a state school, then more than likely anything close will transfer.  If you go to a private school, then they're going to be picky about what they accept.  I know TCU, Rice, and SMU absolutely do not take everything in the Dallas and Housten areas.

Ah, well I haven't had an issue with schools in AZ or that I know of in CA/NM etc.

But, I'd expect that to be part of the question process for the university you want to go to. Guess its better to make sure he knows to ask up front if that university has any agreements with any local community colleges.



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zexen_lowe said:
snakenobi said:
superchunk said:
snakenobi said:
 

but did you know anything about computer programmes or anything related to it technically before going to college?


No. I had zero experience in programming when I started.


and algorithms?

and were you very good at maths or just like me,study for exams and then forget most of it

i pick up very fast but i don't consistantly do maths and other stuff

When I entered uni I had barely any knowledge of programming (only had a very basic knowledge of Pascal), didn't know any algorithm, and what's more, never had used Linux. Now 3/4 years later I consider I have a good handle of C and C and I think I can learn any other language easily in a few days because I understand how everything works (I'd just need to learn the syntaxis), I know all the typically used algorithms and Linux is my second home.

What I mean, is, seriously, they teach you everything there, uni is not a place for Zuckerbergs to humilliate everyone, it's for normal people to gain knowledge, you're not supposed to know those things before you enter (if you do, more power to you), that's what uni is for, to learn. If everyone knew programming beforehand they'd have nothing to teach. You'll be fine

ok

i thought that

 

but then i see geohots and zukerberg doing these big things at the age of 18 and i start comparing

 

anyways thanks alot guys,my mind is alot clearer now so i can concentrate on admission process



snakenobi said:

ok

i thought that

 

but then i see geohots and zukerberg doing these big things at the age of 18 and i start comparing

 

anyways thanks alot guys,my mind is alot clearer now so i can concentrate on admission process


If you're aiming to be the next geohot or Zukaberg and you're asking these questions, then you're not going to get far.  Don't despair though!  Not everyone can be those type of guys and most programmers are just normal people and lucky for programmers, everyone wants even the bad programmers.

I don't know exactly what field you want to get into (I think you were the one that said you wanted to do animation programming, I'm not sure) but if you're at the very least a competent programmer, you can pick and be choosy about what jobs you take. 

That said, if you're planning on going into game programming, you can't be choosy, or you can't be choosy for entry level jobs (once you get a fair amount of experience and a few shipped games you can then be choosy).  You're still on the right track, just when graduation starts getting close you're going to have an immense amount of work ahead of you.  You can't really start building your portfolio now, but definately have that in the back of your mind your entire college career.



I read this link a while back and found it very interesting. It's old and maybe more studies have been done since, but I found it to be strikingly true at my university. Basically, there's a chance CS will make absolutely no sense to you at all to begin with:

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2006/07/separating-programming-sheep-from-non-programming-goats.html



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twesterm said:
snakenobi said:
 

ok

i thought that

 

but then i see geohots and zukerberg doing these big things at the age of 18 and i start comparing

 

anyways thanks alot guys,my mind is alot clearer now so i can concentrate on admission process


If you're aiming to be the next geohot or Zukaberg and you're asking these questions, then you're not going to get far.  Don't despair though!  Not everyone can be those type of guys and most programmers are just normal people and lucky for programmers, everyone wants even the bad programmers.

I don't know exactly what field you want to get into (I think you were the one that said you wanted to do animation programming, I'm not sure) but if you're at the very least a competent programmer, you can pick and be choosy about what jobs you take. 

That said, if you're planning on going into game programming, you can't be choosy, or you can't be choosy for entry level jobs (once you get a fair amount of experience and a few shipped games you can then be choosy).  You're still on the right track, just when graduation starts getting close you're going to have an immense amount of work ahead of you.  You can't really start building your portfolio now, but definately have that in the back of your mind your entire college career.

yeah i wanna work with games as thats what i love and i don't mind slogging for it

its just that when i read about geohot and zukerbergs that they were big programmers even before they entered college,i started thinking do i have enough education to even apply for these couses and will i get anything taught in class and what should i know before going but now they are much clearer



If your goal is to be the next geohot or Zuckerberg, then yes, you'll fail, but so will 99.9999% of the human beings and even 99% of the computer science students, if your goal is to earn a pretty good payment doing something related to what you like to do (I mean, I think if you're heading for CS you must like computers, even if you don't have much idea of programming, you must like toying with your PC, learning how it works, not just "playing games") then you'll have success even if you don't know much beforehand, because they'll teach you everything you need to know.

As long as you like what you're studying, you'll do well in this career, it's not much about knowing beforehand and more about logical thinking, procedure following, a bit of memory...and some ability for maths at first. And since CS pretty much guarantees plenty of jobs available for you with a good pay, success in it willl carry to your work life....as long as you don't intend to make the new Facebook or hack every console known to man