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What Religion Do You Follow?

Islam 15 7.89%
 
Christianity 50 26.32%
 
Hinduism 2 1.05%
 
Sikhism 1 0.53%
 
Buddhism 2 1.05%
 
I don't follow a religion 120 63.16%
 
Total:190
Dr.Grass said:
sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
sapphi_snake said:

Why I can understand why some people would want to become vegetarians, in order to be non-violent, are these people aware that plants are living breathig beings also. People also kill plants and eat them. In the end you have to kill something and eat it in order to survive (unless you're a plant of course).


yes so we might as well bbq a nice tasty homeless person. No one will know! Or what about those tasty stray dogs.Hmmmm... But wait! Nature has the ultimate solution! There are these animals you can keep on big farms, put them in small cages and induce hormones so they supply endless streams of milk! Then, when they are old and useless, you jam them on a truck and take them to a place they are minced one-by-one and a day later you have a nice juicy piece of them with some mushroom sauce

forgive my tone. It just makes conveying the point much quicker and easier.

What point? There are people who eat other people, and there are people who eat dogs. It has nothing to do with nature, but with culture. What I was trying to say is that you're gonna kill a living being in order to survive. I'm not saying we should eat humans, BUT saying that you don't wanna eat an animal due to non-violence is silly.


I see that you are not reading between the lines. 

I see you're to lazy to say what you want to say.

(And people were eating animals before those farms you talk about)



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Dr.Grass said:


*Poor hungry African child to big fat American child*

What makes waffles and ice cream with chocolate sauce so special?

hehehe

No, I'm not trying to tell you that Eastern religions are special and western not. Its just that the average modern western man is religious only due to his cultural situation, and he has rarely been satisfied with what philosophical systems he's been taught since there seem to be so many holes in there. On the contrary, certain eastern 'religions' appeal to the intelligent man because they answer your questions before you've asked them. You just have to know where to look.

(Please don't ask me:'' but if its so great why are people in India and Sri Lanka and wherever becoming Christians?'' My uncle is a misionary there (I hardly know him), and I loathe what they are doing there)

I must admit I don't know anything about Eastern religions, but I definately felt the part I bolded when I used to be religious. Still, I think all religions are made-up, hence why I said there's nothing ultimately "special" about Eastern religions. What great answers could they possibly give?

As for your last paragrpah, don't worry, Twilgiht's popular, but that certainly doesn't make it a good book. Christian misionaries are very despicable, and quite frankly I think their activity should be made illegal. They used to use violence and opression to make those people convert, and now they're profitting of people's poverty and ignorance. And yet Christians like to criticise the Jihad.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Dr.Grass said:

@Chris

I gotta go work on my thesis now, and...

I have a feeling I might be banned soon :D so if I only respond in 2 weeks (I might get more LOL) then I'd like to hear what you say about all this.

Sounds kool good look with da ban



Wait... does this mean im not human?

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kowenicki said:
Dr.Grass said:
kowenicki said:
Dr.Grass said:
kowenicki said:
Dr.Grass said:
kowenicki said:

None... I'm not superstitious. 

 

Oh.. and why is most praying just begging in another guise?  Oh.. and how does this god character choose which one of the 10 athletres to favour? after all they are all lined up at the starting line indulging in some weird arm waving and sky gazing prayers.  

 

These are actually really good questions. Any intelligent person would be very dissatisfies if his belief system couldn't explain simple things like this.

Isn't praying just begging?

How do the entities that attain salvation get chosen?

Brilliant :)

If you are unsatisfied with what someone tells you then its your right to reject everything they say.

Hang on... did we just agree or am I missing some high level sarcasm?  

We most certainly agree. If your questions can't be answered, reject it. If you see some activity and it doesn't make sense (praying) then get to the core of what that activity means. If the meaning doesn't make sense, reject it.

The above things should be done in a sober manner though. I don't think anyone who goes around and decries everything will ever find wisdom.


That isnt my intention.

It is a genuine question... well 2 actually.  To re-iterate:

Whenever I ask someone, particularly of the christian faith, what they pray for... it is almost always a selfish prayer... i.e. begging.  

And whenever a sportsman or performer does well they thank god... why?  isnt it spectacularly arrogant to think god helped them above all other competitors, that they were chosen amongst all others on the planet for success?  

Can anyone help me with these two questions or must I continue with my cynical view of the vast majority of religions and their followers.

I know its not your intention. I just had to add that to prevent misinterpretation.

''Whenever I ask someone, particularly of the christian faith, what they pray for... it is almost always a selfish prayer... i.e. begging.  ''

This is wrong, because we put God in the position of our servant with all our demands. Asking asking asking. It definitely doesn't make sense. Why would he put us here and then wait for us to ask till he gives us what we want? What would be the point? And then how does he decide when to give? Because we most certainly don't always recieve. 

Modern prayer evolved from meditation. A better word for meditation is yoga. Yoga doesn't mean stretching. That is only one type of process meant for the yogi who lives in the Himalayas or in a forest. There are different levels of yoga depending on which stage of practice you are. Its exactly like climbing a ladder. At each successive step your practice includes all of the previous elements, but also the new part. There is no time now to go through all of it, but suffice to say that the ultimate goal is to percieve reality as it realy is through pratyaksha - direct perception. Not through your faulty human senses, but first through your mind and then later (much much later) you even give that up too.

''And whenever a sportsman or performer does well they thank god... why?  isnt it spectacularly arrogant to think god helped them above all other competitors, that they were chosen amongst all others on the planet for success?  ''

Your absolutely right. Why would someone with infinite energies beckoning at His very will give a damn about a sports game played by infinitesimal human beings? Rediculous.

Its interesting to see that someone who seems to be more spiritually aware than most (for want of a better phrase and not to appear patronising) agrees with someone like me on this (me being a rampant atheist)

Speaks volumes... how would historic religious figures view the modern take and practices I wonder?

I don't think Jesus would recognize modern Christianity.



Baalzamon said:
ManusJustus said:
pizzahut451 said:
ManusJustus said:
pizzahut451 said:

China accepting christianity to some level would be amazing. Not only would atheism become much weaker in the world but it would also start the spreading of our religion in the far east and Asian continent overall, something our forfathers werent able to do before.

One can hope...

I wish that people stop following anctient myths and instead use logic and reason to guide their lives.

One can hope...


Ah yes, the good old ''Your dumb, Im smart and intellgent, use logic'' argument. You sure proved me wrong.

I surely hope you are an atheist, because pretty much every religion has absolutely insane things that thye seem to be expected to believe in, which is mostly why I'm more of an atheist despite being confirmed catholic.

If you studied the Special Theory of Relativity you would say the same thing about physicists.



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sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:
sapphi_snake said:

Why I can understand why some people would want to become vegetarians, in order to be non-violent, are these people aware that plants are living breathig beings also. People also kill plants and eat them. In the end you have to kill something and eat it in order to survive (unless you're a plant of course).


yes so we might as well bbq a nice tasty homeless person. No one will know! Or what about those tasty stray dogs.Hmmmm... But wait! Nature has the ultimate solution! There are these animals you can keep on big farms, put them in small cages and induce hormones so they supply endless streams of milk! Then, when they are old and useless, you jam them on a truck and take them to a place they are minced one-by-one and a day later you have a nice juicy piece of them with some mushroom sauce

forgive my tone. It just makes conveying the point much quicker and easier.

What point? There are people who eat other people, and there are people who eat dogs. It has nothing to do with nature, but with culture. What I was trying to say is that you're gonna kill a living being in order to survive. I'm not saying we should eat humans, BUT saying that you don't wanna eat an animal due to non-violence is silly.


I see that you are not reading between the lines. 

I see you're to lazy to say what you want to say.

(And people were eating animals before those farms you talk about)


Yes its true. We vegetarians savagely massacre whole colonies of cauliflower that have been grown for the sole purpose of our consumption...

Do you get me now?  :P :P

EDIT: "(And people were eating animals before those farms you talk about)" And how does that apply to your life?



sapphi_snake said:
Dr.Grass said:


*Poor hungry African child to big fat American child*

What makes waffles and ice cream with chocolate sauce so special?

hehehe

No, I'm not trying to tell you that Eastern religions are special and western not. Its just that the average modern western man is religious only due to his cultural situation, and he has rarely been satisfied with what philosophical systems he's been taught since there seem to be so many holes in there. On the contrary, certain eastern 'religions' appeal to the intelligent man because they answer your questions before you've asked them. You just have to know where to look.

(Please don't ask me:'' but if its so great why are people in India and Sri Lanka and wherever becoming Christians?'' My uncle is a misionary there (I hardly know him), and I loathe what they are doing there)

I must admit I don't know anything about Eastern religions, but I definately felt the part I bolded when I used to be religious. Still, I think all religions are made-up, hence why I said there's nothing ultimately "special" about Eastern religions. What great answers could they possibly give?

As for your last paragrpah, don't worry, Twilgiht's popular, but that certainly doesn't make it a good book. Christian misionaries are very despicable, and quite frankly I think their activity should be made illegal. They used to use violence and opression to make those people convert, and now they're profitting of people's poverty and ignorance. And yet Christians like to criticise the Jihad.


I accept that paragraph.



chris.m95 said:
Dr.Grass said:

@Chris

I gotta go work on my thesis now, and...

I have a feeling I might be banned soon :D so if I only respond in 2 weeks (I might get more LOL) then I'd like to hear what you say about all this.

Sounds kool good look with da ban


Not banned yet! :D



Dr.Grass said:

If you studied the Special Theory of Relativity you would say the same thing about physicists.

Yet Einstein's theory accurately predict the world around us, whereas the story of Noah's Ark is pure fantasy.



sapphi_snake said:
pizzahut451 said:



I'm not gonna bother to respond to all that you're saying, because it's not worth it.Yeah, sure, I didnt excpect you to etiher. Next time dont start an argument you cant finish.

First of all, have't you heard of the Taiping Rebellion? It was one of the most violent conflicts in histroy, when Christians in China tried to rise up against the ruling dynasty and outlaw all other religions. They killed 20 million people. It's a historical fact, not what I choose to believe.But no Christian chinese person died in that riot because he/she was a christian, right? The diffrence is, people tried to froce their beliefs on eachother by violence back than. And today, we are seeing a peacefull rise of Christianity in China with no violence whatsoever.

Second of all, Christianity can only rise at the detriment of other religions.Not if its rising in the country where atheism is a majority And Christianity is an intolerant religion, opressive religionWhatever makes you sleep at night buddy. I can only respond insults with insults, and if i do that a certan mod will ban me. you just keep telling yourself that. I just wonder where zexen is to teach us about religious intolerance now..., that claims to be the "one true religion"There can only be one true religion, and dont act like other religions dont claim to be the right ones. Your bias against christianity and christianity only is jaw-dropping., which leads Christians to want to eliminate all other religious beliefs (your comment about wanting to get rid of atheists says it allLMFAO!!!! Where the fuck have i said that? Please im begging you to tell me where I said that. PLEEEEEEEASE! I beg you to tell me). China doesn't need another Taiping Rebellion,See? Your just so ignorant and biased against everything christian, you dont even see what happening and choose to close your eyes and tell yourself all that nonsense to make yourself feel better about your beliefs. I dont insult judisam, islam, buddisam or even atheism to make myself feel better and more secure about my beliefs.  nor do the people need more opression in their lives.Except that this is totally diffrent than that rebelion. People are CHOOSING to follow christian religion, not to force it on others. No one is opression no one, no matter if you want to believe otherwise.

Third of all, it's quite a delusion to ignore the massacre and forced conversion of peoples like the Incas or the Philipinos or the Africans by ChristiansYes, it would be IF I was talkking about Africa or Philiphinos, but since i was not, its irrelevant. Not to mention those events happedn 300 years ago, and Im talking about TODAY!!, or what they tried to do in China, India and Japan. Not to mention things like the Spanish Inquisition, and what Christians did to the Muslims who lived there. Do you think that your religion would've survived without violence to help spread and maintain it?Absolutely, because inquisition wasnt about spreading christianity on innocent muslims who never raised sword against christians, it was about keeping church in power of the kingodms and lands of europe.Christianity would have been just fine without inqusition. Church and western kingdoms? I dont think so. As for muslims in Spain, go educate yourself on Spanish Reconquista