people tend to not like putting a crosshairs on their forehead... then again...sometimes it is the intent :)

I've never played with muliple scum faction so I'm not fully sure how balance would really work then again with the roles we know of so far this game it is still very possible. However not much more we can do with that at the moment, care to answer any more of the questions I asked? Since you already unintentionaly covered one of them :)

i thought they were for outlaw (due to Q1):

1) premature but as he says, he did not roleclaim, far from it. had he done it after hat's claim it would have been fine (didn't check actually but it's what i recall).

2) if they post elsewhere... replace them, we'll see in the morning.

3) already talked about this... what disturbs me is the overall change in player attitude, there are many i can't get a read on yet due to this, i need to addapt too.

4) no, although he doesn't say all that much in his posts, he does post enough to be informative, at least on himself. I'm not saying he's not suspicious, but I'm not about to vote for him based on classiffication such as active lurking.

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If there are two mafia fractions the conditions that need to be met is to have one fraction be at least 50% of the total population? If more experienced players believe that Vigilante is highly unlikely then it's likely I am incorrect in my assumption, I am yet to play such a sophisticated game with a big variety of roles, just read up on the Wiki and made some hypothesis, although I don't know about Mafia fractions as that would indicate that there quite alot of people with roles present in the game.. I'll FoS Darthdevidem01 for now, maybe he has a reasonable explaination for not posting as much.

the town is always > 50%

with estimated numbers, we have:

A) 4 mafi, 1 SK (hardest for town)

B) 5 mafia, 1 vig (he's town)

C) 3 mafia, 3 mafia (easiest for town)

note that vigs are not always efficient, sometimes they do more damage than good... it's really random.

Is it possible to have a vigilante AND a SK? I've read up on a mafia game the other day, it was pretty interesting, the SK had the ability to convert people to his cult.

SK and cult leader are different things... though they can be combined (we had one here I believe).

Having an SK and a Vigilante is not uncommon... in larger games. You have 3 deaths at night 1... so -4 players in one day (including the lynch), at the begining of day 3 you'd be at -8 players and on a 16 player game that would be a lot. If we did have both, the mafia count would need to be reduced, or the SK and vig could have a kill only every other night limitation, which would keep a steady 2 kills a night (both times I was SK I had that limitation for info).

The no differenciation in night kills could point to that... once one of them is dead. We'll just have to keep it in the back of our minds.

by that i mean how links only puts "murdered" on the front page. In many games you have different words (assassinated, butchered...) and colors.

the absence of this info is likely for balance and to hide some aspect as 2 mafia teams or a vig/sk combo... or just to make our brains work a little.

What's interesting is that there is a key above the table "Red = Murdered" maybe there will be other types of death, or maybe it's just a way to distinguish between murders and lynches, I got no idea, this "thinking" thing is making my brain hurt , I think we're likely dealing with two fractions or one fraction with SK, but two families would mean that there are quite alot of scum around and all that role claiming earlier on does seem more suspicious now.

I have only posted four times in the last two days. Twice in this thread... and twice in another to make fun of Canadians. How is that "heavily"? I even popped in to say that I'm busy with school.