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Baalzamon said:

Maybe you want everybody to think that what you just said is true, when you in fact are the mafia member and want everybody to vote out innocents?


Maybe your mafia trying to divert attention from your scum buddies!!!!



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MetalGear_94 said:
Baalzamon said:

Maybe you want everybody to think that what you just said is true, when you in fact are the mafia member and want everybody to vote out innocents?


Maybe your mafia trying to divert attention from your scum buddies!!!!

So many maybies



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

hatmoza said:

Off-topic

-big sigh of relief-

The last few games I played as scum, and it was hard to avoid and direct posts to certain players as a scum, because of the risk of associating yourself with others.

I feel like a big weight has been lifted off my back now that I can post more freely.


......

wow.....



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Hephaestos said:
hatmoza said:

Off-topic

-big sigh of relief-

The last few games I played as scum, and it was hard to avoid and direct posts to certain players as a scum, because of the risk of associating yourself with others.

I feel like a big weight has been lifted off my back now that I can post more freely.


......

wow.....

The craziest thing is that the general consesnsus seems to be that this is common of him and he only does this when he is in fact a townie, unless it is the mafias trying to convince us that this is the case.



Money can't buy happiness. Just video games, which make me happy.

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Baalzamon said:
Hephaestos said:
hatmoza said:

Off-topic

-big sigh of relief-

The last few games I played as scum, and it was hard to avoid and direct posts to certain players as a scum, because of the risk of associating yourself with others.

I feel like a big weight has been lifted off my back now that I can post more freely.


......

wow.....

The craziest thing is that the general consesnsus seems to be that this is common of him and he only does this when he is in fact a townie, unless it is the mafias trying to convince us that this is the case.

Reverse psychology is ftl, worsts thing is, nobody can tell whether it's implied or whether the sentence is actually genuine , ahh the bloody internets!



Disconnect and self destruct, one bullet a time.

Wonktonodi said:

@Heph outside of pro town powerroles where can you see a lie be helpful?

You saying you lie MORE as town than you do when you are mafia is troubleing. When you are mafia every time you say you think someone is scum it's a lie. Just saying you suspect someone is a lie. Best you can say that you can get away with is saying so in so is doing something that is scummy or not pro town. You even admitted to lying about numbers as scum to make the town more paranoid. 

So if you are saying you lie more than that as town what good does it do? I got killed last game in part for going after you. If that had anything to do with you lying did you not notice how your lying got the doctor killed?

1) tssss the trick is to pick up on scummy attitdes of townies, thus you don't lie when you say they play scummy ^^ and have evidence to back up your claims -> not lies.

2) i don't count lying on suspect list or distorting data such as "how many players are mafia" as these are opinions and thus lies that cannot be called by the town. Even faulty conclusions on evidence don't count as this is also opinion.

3) basically as a mafia, i see no reason to say a lie in the sense of lying with any risk of getting caught.

4) as a town, barring the roleclaims, lying can be used to trick the mafia, by lying on your actions done or to be (for example). the important thing is to consider the risks beforehand.

5) i didn't lie last game (if i recall) ^^



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Hephaestos said:
Wonktonodi said:

@Heph outside of pro town powerroles where can you see a lie be helpful?

You saying you lie MORE as town than you do when you are mafia is troubleing. When you are mafia every time you say you think someone is scum it's a lie. Just saying you suspect someone is a lie. Best you can say that you can get away with is saying so in so is doing something that is scummy or not pro town. You even admitted to lying about numbers as scum to make the town more paranoid. 

So if you are saying you lie more than that as town what good does it do? I got killed last game in part for going after you. If that had anything to do with you lying did you not notice how your lying got the doctor killed?

1) tssss the trick is to pick up on scummy attitdes of townies, thus you don't lie when you say they play scummy ^^ and have evidence to back up your claims -> not lies.

2) i don't count lying on suspect list or distorting data such as "how many players are mafia" as these are opinions and thus lies that cannot be called by the town. Even faulty conclusions on evidence don't count as this is also opinion.

3) basically as a mafia, i see no reason to say a lie in the sense of lying with any risk of getting caught.

4) as a town, barring the roleclaims, lying can be used to trick the mafia, by lying on your actions done or to be (for example). the important thing is to consider the risks beforehand.

5) i didn't lie last game (if i recall) ^


1 makes sence

2a. When you gave a false percentage 3 games ago that wasn't an opinion you might hide it as a "bad math" calculation but from what you had said it was intentional.

2b.  you might not have counted opinions like "i think ____ is scum" as a lie but when you are scum you would know it not to be true so thus a lie by default. Not one that holds much however it is still a lie.

3. Yes that is a good reason to be truthful as scum but that doesn't make it good to tell lies as town.

4. It can trick town as well though and cause problems as well. If not getting yourself killed.

5. Maybe not lies then just bad logic :P

You have cleared up your point of lying more as town then as mafia by how you defied lies. Personally I don't hold the same deffinitions as you and thus would conclude that you lie more as scum then as town.  Although I dislike the ideo of you useing lies to trick scum "it can backfire and waste time" unless you get caught in one I won't go after you for your philosophy.



outlawauron said:

Thank you for the reminder. I didn't realize that the game has started. I wouldn't have been able to post before this time anyways. I said I would be able on Monday. That's today!

 

After reading through the thread, it seems we got a good game!

Aggg. Last time I played with you, I roleclaimed cop and you whore blocked me 2-3 days in a row -_-

Edit: that was well over a year ago.



I am the black sheep     "of course I'm crazy, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong."-Robert Anton Wilson

NotStan said:
Baalzamon said:
Hephaestos said:
hatmoza said:

Off-topic

-big sigh of relief-

The last few games I played as scum, and it was hard to avoid and direct posts to certain players as a scum, because of the risk of associating yourself with others.

I feel like a big weight has been lifted off my back now that I can post more freely.


......

wow.....

The craziest thing is that the general consesnsus seems to be that this is common of him and he only does this when he is in fact a townie, unless it is the mafias trying to convince us that this is the case.

Reverse psychology is ftl, worsts thing is, nobody can tell whether it's implied or whether the sentence is actually genuine , ahh the bloody internets!

Well we won't know but we can view it with suspcion and you are wrong though. He himself knows and all the scum know as well.