I don't really understand the dsister issue - he was trying to get the game started, and asked a few valid questions. Is there a particular quote which shows him to be scummy? From here it looks like there's a couple of users trying to set up something against dsister without much (anything?) to go on. Just an observation (which I was told last game to make more of :P)

He hadn't told us he read that PM at that point, and he was targeting Heph.

I just noticed - sorry, I should have done more research

@Heph outside of pro town powerroles where can you see a lie be helpful?

You saying you lie MORE as town than you do when you are mafia is troubleing. When you are mafia every time you say you think someone is scum it's a lie. Just saying you suspect someone is a lie. Best you can say that you can get away with is saying so in so is doing something that is scummy or not pro town. You even admitted to lying about numbers as scum to make the town more paranoid. 

So if you are saying you lie more than that as town what good does it do? I got killed last game in part for going after you. If that had anything to do with you lying did you not notice how your lying got the doctor killed?

Yes. Like that.

offtopic, regarding dsis:

Additionally, I'd just like to point out dsis' "i didn't read my pm" and analyze it a bit.

There are two possible alignments (possibly a third party but I'll not muddy the details):

If town, this doesn't tell me much except that he's a bit brash.

If mafia, this tells me that anything he says isn't a good indicator of who his teammates are. Who he votes and who he defends cannot really be analyzed for connections.

This is true of all townies as well, as the nature of the game forces you to consider motivations given an assumed alignment.

But to bring it all together now;

As a townie, there is no real advantage to telling the town you didn't read your pm. As a mafia, there IS an advantage. It is this opportunism that I find relevant, not to mention this is the first opportunistic thing dsis has done; the second being his vote of Heph.

There is also the question of how he found this thread, despite there not being a link to it anywhere but in his signature. It's very much possible that he found it in the off-topic section (which is likely given that dsis is an offtopic lurker), but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

@italicized

Yes, It sure has spawned quite a bit of discussion in this thread. ^^ I am very happy with the results

@bolded

How exactly did I push for a lynch? I haven't told anyone else to vote for him. Not even the people who see it as a bad thing to lie. The one and only [specific] person who i've told to vote is you, and that was to vote for me

I simply voted then in my very next post even made clear that my vote is anything but permanent 

@ second part

Please keep up with the thread. i read my PM when I decided that it was a good time for RVS to end. 

@dsister

What does RVS mean?

Random Voting Stage, as in when we just voted for "the lolz" at the beggining.

1) Ok that's fine. If you're content with your discussion, that's your business, but your response does not change my suspicions, because, simply put, it is what it is. Talking about superficial game structure for no reason other than what appears to be a reason to vote (which you've admitted to when saying you get guff for votes without reason [as opposed to that vote]) is scummy.

2) I just want to address your argument. I believe you when you imply that you didn't push for a lynch. However, have you ever heard of something called "subtlety"? How about "craftiness"? How about "passivity"? Why, then, is your only argument that you didn't push for a lynch the fact that you never said 'everyone should lynch Heph'?

3) I am keeping up with the thread. I'm curious as just to how you saying that you did eventually read it, make my point moot? You DID say it. And I theorized WHY you said it.

PS: yes I know you told me to vote for you. But the day is nowhere near done, and there are many more players to talk to. I don't want people focusing solely on you, should it happen that people follow my vote.

I don't trust an argument about Structure when they can't even Structure their own sentences. 

Or did your paraphrasing accidentally butcher it?